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My first gaming PC. Initially, it was supposed to be a fairly simple budget build to get the ball rolling, but, like many of my other scatterbrained projects, my parts list quickly spiraled out of control into something that, while much more powerful, is seriously unbalanced; some parts that packed a bit more power were snagged on a whim while other parts (namely the CPU) were afterthoughts taken straight out of the original build plan – one that was substantially weaker and cheaper than it is in its current state. As I'm sure you can see, that didn't really work out well.

Now that the build is done, I can't really say that I'm as impressed with its performance as I wish I would be coming in at this price point, but, again, this is my first build. I plan on upgrading the motherboard and CPU in the very, very near future.

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  • 53 months ago
  • 3 points

Oh man, that CPU is definitely the weak spot in this build. Probably dragging down the whole system. Such a great build otherwise! You should seriously consider replacing that CPU - your other parts will thank you for it

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

Can confirm, I have the 860k

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

It was taken from a build guide I was initially planning on following until I came across a bit more money. Once my budget went up, I broke away from the guide and replaced every single component except the CPU. What would you recommend? I'd like to stay on the AMD side of the spectrum, but I'm still really new at this.

  • 53 months ago
  • 3 points

Yes I think the CPU could be your problem here as was already said. Change it out. AMD CPU's are not that expensive. You can certainly do that.

You need more pictures.

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

Can X4 860K handle the R9 390????? Curious.........

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

I am curious as well. If you are concerned about performance, I recommend getting a strong after market cooler,e.g cooler master evo 212 (+ second fan) or better a noctua nh-d14 or d15 and over clock that cpu to 4.5 ghz if the silicon can take it. Before changing your cpu and mobo. It looks like you still on the stock fan. Also, if not already try hwinfo64 and monitor cpu load when using your most graphic intensive programmes, for smooth operation you don't want your cpu sitting at or close to 100% across all cores. This is a well balanced, good looking build otherwise. Again as per other questions where is this performance hit you suggest?

  • 53 months ago
  • -1 points

This is a well balanced

I'm sorry, no it's not well balanced. Please re-look into the 860K. it's the same as the A10-7850K APU, sans iGPU. It's not a good CPU to pair with high-end monsters. The highest GPU you should pair with it is a 380 or 960, and that's max. Pairing it with anything higher will cause bottlenecks in games as the CPU cannot keep up with the GPU. If it was an OC FX or FX 9XXX series, then it would be fine. with the 860K, no.

Again as per other questions where is this performance hit you suggest?

The CPU? :P

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

I am fully aware of what the 860k is. I also, have not seen this pairing before, though have experience with r9 380 pairings which operate well once the Athlon is oc'd. I was just trying to help the op out before spending large amounts of cash on a new mobo cpu combo. I alao meant all other components with exception of cpu/gpu combo looked good. I apologise as this did it come to clearly. Regarding performance, I meant from a software perspective, if the op is not getting the performance he expects for either older gaming titles, or workstation tasks then something else might be at play. It would also be good to understand the resolution of the monitor / monitors the op is using as well. Just trying to offer advice on maximising current build.

  • 53 months ago
  • 0 points

it's all good. you are correct, the pairing of this cpu/gpu isn't really common. and you advice is always welcomed :) but by just looking at it, you can pretty much tell at least one area where he might be having issues is from the pairing. however I would really like the OP to come back with some results if he can OC the CPU. that might alleviate some bottlenecking

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for your post...... Sorry to hear that you are not as impressed by the performance of your build as you had hoped.

Where does or how does it fail your expectations?

  • 53 months ago
  • 2 points

well looking at his part list... he's pairing a budget cpu with a high-end monster gpu... pretty obvious where it's failing his expectations. it's like having a prius engine pulling a train :P

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

I hear what you are saying but he still has a quad-core CPU and depending on what he is doing it may not matter that much......But it all depends on what he is doing and what exactly the expectations.

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

i srsly hopes the OP overclocks the CPU with a cheap cooler like the 212. I think he'll get better performance out of it compared to stocks :)

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

Luv that Halo reference. Also nice build but you might want to upgrade to a better cpu so you can use that 390 nitro to its full power

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

Man love the reference to the web series

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

get a cooler and overclock that cpu quite a bit to try and improve proformance. that cpu is a little better than the pentium K but i would have got pentium for upgradability

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

I would say it is the CPU running at stock clock speeds that is holding you back. I would highly recommend getting a 240MM AOI Water Cooler and overclock that sucker to at least 4.5Ghz - 4.7Ghz (pretty much where most overclockers hit the wall with this CPU). I was doing a few tests myself as an owner of the 860K and there are huge benefits when you overclock, especially when it comes to gaming. I would also recommend overclocking your ram as well. You may need to overclock your NB to make your CPU overclocks stable. You will get a pretty sweet performance boost doing this. Otherwise, very nice build!

  • 53 months ago
  • 1 point

Honestly, While you do have a very Powerful GPU in the R9 390, If all You're going to be doing is Gaming on this thing, I see No reason to Upgrade your CPU right now. The X4 860K can still play a lot of Current-Gen Titles at MAX settings at 1080p with the 390. There may be a few exceptions, but otherwise it is still a capable CPU for $75.

One suggest I could give you is to get an Aftermarket CPU Cooler, and try Overclocking the CPU to 4.5 Ghz. That should give you some improvements.

However, If you are Absolutely sure that you need to upgrade the CPU, I would suggest waiting for ZEN when it becomes available in Q4 of this Year. With Skylake only being a tiny-bit powerful than Haswell, I see no point in upgrading just yet.

Otherwise, Very Awesome Build! +1 from Me.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

just a word of advice, spend more on the cpu than the motherboard, that being said the cpu isn't bad and 95% of games won't even hit a bottleneck with it. You really don't need to switch it out.

  • 51 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice case. Any updates on the build?

  • 50 months ago
  • 1 point

To all the lame 860K haters... Beat feet and stop being gay fanboys!

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Systems/Quad-Core-Gaming-Hardware-Roundup/Synthetic-Benchmarks

  • 53 months ago
  • 0 points

Man, sell the CPU and MB as fast as you can, The X4 860K can even bottleneck a GTX 960. If you're on a budget, a FX 8320, but that card would run with it's fully potencial with an i5 or a 9370.

A MSI 970 Krait is less than 100 dollars, and a 8320 about 140. Your components would thank you for doing that.

  • 53 months ago
  • -1 points

Literally everything costs more than your cpu I don't fkn get it lol

  • 53 months ago
  • -1 points

I love that name! Master Chief FTW!

However I do agree with everyone here, the system as a whole is very unbalanced. It's like a see-saw, you have a baby on one end and an adult at the other. For the price you spent on this system, I would have definitely gone Intel. If you like AMD, at least a 8320 and OC it. the 390 is going to drag many budget-mid range CPUs down. remember the 860K isn't a power cpu, it's budget cpu much like the G3258.

I can't really say that I'm as impressed with its performance as I wish I would be coming in at this price point

yeah, I'm sure you found out by now how it doesn't really fit together. for that price range, Intel i5 should definitely been the better chip, esp with that R9 390.

the rest of the system however is clean and tidy and the other parts are well picked out so kudos for those.

  • 52 months ago
  • -1 points

I have the 860k under liquid (an enermax 120mm AIO) oc'd to 4.7GHz and it still holds back my R9 380X. I did overbuild my system so I could upgrade later, however, with a 750W power supply, lotsa storage, a CPU watercooler, etc. so I'll swap it out for an Intel Kaby Lake series unlocked i5 about a half-year after launch.

  • 53 months ago
  • -2 points

Bottleneck city dude. Anyways, +1 for the name alone.

  • 53 months ago
  • -2 points

No offense but you spent too much on your gpu and not enough on your cpu a i3/fx 6300 with gtx 960 would have been much better for the price, with the storage it looks great but why go for a wd black for secondary storage i would have got red/blue (blue performs about the same as black) and do you need 2.12tb of high speed storage?

  • 53 months ago
  • -2 points

im feeling a bottleneck- no?

  • 53 months ago
  • -2 points

I think you should have spent more time researching and picking out parts...you got some serious imbalances. If this was your first build why didnt you stick to a budget build? 8GB would have been enough, an FX 6300, and GTX 960. That would have been a balanced build...what you have here is a High end GPU with a low end CPU...they dont go together. Sell the CPU and motherboard and get an i5 and a Z97 motherboard that way everything will be fixed and you will get the performance you desire.

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