Description

During my last build I came across some SFF cases while searching cases. I loved the Ncase M1 but it wasn't available at the time so I went a different route. It peaked my interest, however and I continued to research SFF for the next build. My chance came when best friend and myself wanted to get another friend into PC gaming, so everyone agreed to sell/traded up their computers. This was a done making payments to the parties involved so I knew I had time to build before I had to give up my computer. Just so happened that the Ncase was on pre-order so I immediately ordered it up. Initially I was going to do an air cooled system but as I had more time to research and look at other builds I decided I was going to do a custom dual 240mm rad open loop water cooled system. This is easier said then done. Lots of research went into what would fit and I have to say its tight! I went with the external res/pump combo (built for the Ncase) and love it! Now that everything is built I COULD have fit the pump internally and run with a "T" system instead of the external res but I like the looks and performance of the Iceman res/pump combo. All the main system components are listed. The water cooling blocks and fittings are mostly Alphacool (EK back plate on GPU), pump is a Barrow 17w ddc, Iceman ddc pump/res combo, bottom rad is a XSPC TX240 slim and side rad is a Black Ice Nemesis 240GTS. Everything came out great in the end and I couldn't be happier.

Part Reviews

CPU

Initial build had a Ryzen 3600 in it. I built a computer for a friend and decided to upgrade the processor after installing the 3600 in his system. Was going to get the 3700x but the 3800X was on sale for about 5% more at the time of purchase and that made the performed difference between the 2 Ryzen 8-cores worth the upgrade. As with my 3600 the 3800x works best basically running stock. With my cooling I have boost clocks up to 4550mhz and all core of around 4200mhz. Tide temperatures never exceed 82C and CPU 70C. Idles around 40C Tdie and low 30's CPU. No complaints with this processor.

Motherboard

I decided to get the x570 chip set for more "future proof", PCIe 4, top notch VRMs, and (most important) the ability to run dual M.2 drives and maintain 16x on the GPU PCIe lane. Now I know that I don't NEED or will even utilize the full capacity of the board at this time but maybe down the road. This thing does very well with memory overclocking and has all the features I needed. Its a solid board but ASUS's BIOS is a little buggy at the moment. Had trouble with 1405 update and went back to the solid 1404 version. I knew that I would face early adopter issues but overall I am very happy with the board.

Memory

Still great ram for Ryzen. No problem running at 3600 16-16-16-16-32 @ 1.35v. Still have more tweaking to do but recommended purchase.

Storage

Very fast, best price to performance Gen 4 NVME drive going. Using as boot and core program drive. No complaints

Storage

Using as a game drive, overkill I know, but wanted to do dual M.2 drives for this build and this fit the bill for the storage drive.

Video Card

This was the cheapest reference card at the time of my purchase. I combined this with the Alphacool GPU block, and after some power table registry edits I have this thing clocking along at 1950Mhz with boosts in the high 1990's. GPU temps are great in this system with max GPU/Juct Temp being 58/71C and max GPU memory temps of 62C. Overclocked the memory to 900. Still playing around with it but definitely able to get a huge boost over stock 5700 cards.

Power Supply

Excellent SFF PSU. Braided cables on the platinum models are much easier to work with and basically required for tight SFF builds. The 750w model allows for mostly passive cooling with the fan usually only kicking in during stress testing. Great PSU and one of the best SFF's available.

Case Fan

Great performance for slim fan. Now that Noctua makes black versions of the slim 120mm I might try them out, but no complaints with these fans.

Case Fan

Loved my be quiet fans in my last build and decided to use them again. Work great on the side rad and performance is top notch. Highly recommend these line of fans.

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Comments

  • 3 months ago
  • 6 points

I sense a feature! Smallest custom loop I have ever seen! Good Job!

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks it was fun and feel pretty good about the final result!

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

sniff sniff

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

smells and looks good! +1

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

I'm smelling a feature!!!

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

sniff sniff

I think so as well.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Well thanks!

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

No! I was totally honest! :)

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

People are impressed with 7nm SC manufacturing processes, wait until they see what the human hands are capable of. This has Yoda patience written all over it and that inch-perfect compactness redefines "all good things come in small packages" +1

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha appreciate the kind words! Cheers!

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

amazing how much you got cramed into that tiny case.. mad props!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, cheers!

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Noice! Noice! Noice! btw you mispelled definitely

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, fixed the mistake (took me awhile to find it haha)

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Btw you misspelled nice. XD

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

ROFFLE :)

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Congratulations on the feature. Certainly deserving, your cable and space management are top tier. I hope when I do a build in a case this small someday that I can keep it as clean as you did.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for complements, very much appreciated!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

nice build

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Gotta respect watercooled loop inside these tiny cases. Amazing build.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

What issues did you have with the 1405 bios? I'm getting the same board on Wednesday and I'll take all the heads up I can get.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

My OC on the memory wouldn't post and even stock settings for my memory were not working. Ran into someone else on Reddit with the same problem. Seemed a little buggy and, as weird as it may sound, I think it was the fan control in the BIOS. Seemed to crash if I messed with it. Anyway went back to 1404 and no issues at the moment.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok thanks for the heads up, I had the room for the Crosshair VIII Impact but I wasn't paying and extra $200 for slightly better RAM overclock, SO-DIMM.2, and the Bios monitoring on the I/O shield.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Congratulations on the feature! This is just so tight and effortless looking. It takes a lot of work to get that effect. Great job.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, a few tear downs and fitting orders later all fits haha

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Good job ! This build is great. I just ordered N1 case V6.1 and your build give me good idea's for future upgrade. Thumb up!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Tight! I like it.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

+1 Your fingers deserve a rest I guess :) Well done!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

My next build will be something this small for my second watercooled pc. Just built my first in the O11 Dynamic Air. Love this build and the thought process that went into it. There's something about a SFF watercooled build when everything fits right into place and looks like it was supposed to be there.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. I had fun building it, frustrating, but fun.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Great job.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow that cable management is impressive.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, I want to learn how to make my own cables next.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Wait what now?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I have seen some builds with 100% custom cables, as in each wire cut to the exact length. Need some crimps ends and other tools, but plan to start with fan and molex before I move on to 6/8 pin, etc

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow alright then. Good luck with that.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks great, I wish that pump/res combo was available when I watercooled my ncase..

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. I like it and it does make it easier for sure.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Very nice V6 build! I also bought myself the case and plan on using a 3700x with a 2070 super do you think using the 600w version of your psu would be enough?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah more than enough. The 750w PSU went on sale for the same price as the 600w otherwise that would have been the one I ordered. I would suggest the Platinum for the sleeved cables for this case.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Pretty sweet build. Good work!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

You did an excellent job of fitting all of the components in such a small case. Looks absolutely amazing. Great custom loops.

  • 3 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks for the compliments, very much appreciated.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't ask about the thermal performance, but it looks sick! Good job!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha thanks! Cheers

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Great job, and great log. Couple questions please :

  1. What's powering the four fans? Just the one motherboard header? And do you just have them running at fixed speed?

  2. How's the pump getting its power? Is it noisy? PWM or fixed?

Thanks!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point
  1. The motherboard has 3 pwm headers. Bottom 2 fans are plugged into the CPU header and run off CPU temp. Side fans are plugged to another PWM header run off water temperature. Pump on another header running off water temp too.
  2. Molex. At low RPMs not at all. Whine at high RPMs. It has both modes. There is a manual dial that can control the pump speed or can be set with motherboard
  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

That's awesome, thanks so much.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

That's incredible! Crazy mini build, I love it! I wouldn't have the patience for that lol +1 and congrats on feature!

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Tight build with excellent cable and space management, and ofcourse custom cooling too, hats off,

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice to see Gen 4 NVME on the back.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I like it a lot. You can easily get more performance out of this system with 3600 speed RAM. Just a thought.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Freaking awesome job, my guy. It's always nice to see a build where the builder cares about cable management. +1.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, not going to lie, the build was tore down a few times and cleaned up each time before I felt comfortable to post the pictures LOL.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

This is a very efficient build and very powerful. I am a first time builder, I may want to take on this project however the case size worries me. Do you think I have a chance at making this as a noob, maybe a bigger case will give me some leg room to make mistakes?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

If you are air cooling the components only real difference by having that smaller case is Cable Management is more difficult. The steps are essentially the same. Just make sure you research which parts fit and you'll be good to go!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

If you aren't sure of yourself, do a mock build.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Beautiful build, I've been researching a similar build, I really like this case but it looks like I'll be waiting to get my hands on it with the pre-order.

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  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

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  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

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