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The Precursor

by jamesthebard

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78 Comments

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Date Published

Sept. 14, 2018

CPU Clock Rate

3 GHz

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.556 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

11 GHz

Description

So, this is literally the precursor to the custom loop build that I'm aiming for. Most of the parts are installed in the system (except for the Vega FE which can't be due to it already having a waterblock) and everything is looking really good. Right now, the system is my main rig and used for rendering, streaming, and the occasional game (thanks nVidia for finally fixing issues with your drivers and the 32c/64t behemoth for the most part).

Also, apologies for the potato photos: the follow up to this build should remedy that significantly.

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Vairfoley 25 Builds 5 points 2 months ago

Not quite enough cores, but nice build!

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 3 points 2 months ago

Thanks, appreciate it :)

FlickBait 3 points 2 months ago

Pffffft my 2200G is better...

dies internally

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Damn you and your on-die GPU... ;)

puppy_punter 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

Have you run into any issues OCing the 2990wx on this MITX board? great build BTW!

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

I really wish there was an mITX board for Threadripper. The ASRock X399M Taichi is mATX, and I would say somewhat capable of OCing. The bigger issue is that (1) as a 250W CPU there really isn't that much headroom on the CPU or the VRMs, and (2) my power supply would not enjoy the endeavor.

puppy_punter 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

I see. I was planning on picking up the 2990wx myself, but wanted something not EATX, and was worried about overclocking headroom.

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 4 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure how much the VRMs could handle. I'd recommend going MSI MEG X399 Creation or Gigabyte's behemoth if you want to really get some current into the CPU, but none of the older boards were built with a 250W CPU in mind unfortunately.

Vycyous 1 point 1 month ago

The Gigabyte didn't do so well in the testing Hardware Unboxed did.

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Yeah, it looks like the Gigabyte board didn't really have what I'd call proper heatsinks for the VRMs. My favorite E-ATX motherboard for Threadripper is still the MSI MEG X399 Creation: 16 VRM phases and proper cooling go a long way with respect to overclocking. Also, while I do enjoy Hardware Unboxed, there are some things that they don't exactly do well. Phoronix did a better job (IMHO) of figuring out what the 2990WX does well, and what it doesn't do well. Also, L1T does a pretty bang-up job on their TR reviews as well.

sammys87gnxgta4 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

Now whoever said you need a big rig to have some big power, is sadly mistaken.

Also WOW, that looks really amazing, great build +1

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks, though the build is a bit messy for my liking. Hopefully when the Parvum case comes in I can start work on making a better 2990WX build :)

ssjg5rlly 2 points 2 months ago

You better buy 2 RTX 2080 Ti's and run them in SLI, lol. +1

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

I'm debating putting in two Vega FEs to be honest. The build should end up being 100% AMD by the end of it. Still debating what to design into the pump/res in CAD at the moment. I thought about grabbing a 2080Ti, but until I get firm numbers in-hand then it's just an idea.

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jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

If I can get my hands on a second Vega FE, then I'll go that route. Otherwise, it'll just be a single Vega FE as I have the block mounted and ready to go on that card. The other issue is that a second GPU kicks the HDMI capture card out of the build as I only have three PCIe slots which are all populated (GPU, capture card, 10GbE NIC)

zaj159 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

So the case came with LL120 fans, and did you just prefer the HD fans?

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

For the build, thought that HD-series fans would look better overall. Also, as the sole lighting inside of the case, it made better sense. Might've also already had 2 HD140s lying in a box...

zaj159 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Looks good

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Thanks, definitely appreciate it.

WyrmWolf130 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

Not enough GPU to CPU power.

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

I agree, but my wallet completely disagrees...lol. I'm working on remedying that, but let's just say it's a long shot as there are only three slots, and I need all three of them. Adding a second 1080Ti would literally kick out the 10GbE fiber NIC in the bottom ;)

WyrmWolf130 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

Well... good luck.

WheatFarmer337 2 points 2 months ago

That's a nice Super Nintendo you've got there

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Appreciate it. Analogue makes a great piece of hardware with their SuperNT :)

skyrise 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

But can it run Crisis on 16 virtual machines simultaneously?

Alien grade technology build!

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

It's not a question on whether it can, it's a question of if my breaker panel can give it enough power before it melts ;)

customgtp 21 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Monster cpu! +1

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

It doesn't mess around.

FurryJackman 2 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

What do you use to scale retro to HDMI? OSSC or Framemeister? I noticed the Everdrive and had to ask.

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Actually, the SuperNT does straight HDMI out. However, for the PS1 and PS2 not pictured, it goes [Console] -> [SCART Cables] -> [Hydra MINI] -> [OSSC] -> [HDMI] -> [Capture Card]. Hope that helps :)

FurryJackman 2 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Ah, OSSC.

Do make sure to get the right sync type for your SCART cables, cause cheap ones don't really disclose that well.

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Got mine from Retro Gaming in the UK which should work pretty well. A little expensive, but well worth it.

FurryJackman 2 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

If they did physical tests on it on actual Sony PVE CRTs, then you should be fine. If you want to know more, My Life in Gaming did a whole thing on SCART RGB from the PS1 and PS2.

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Actually, the have specific SCART cables for PS1 and PS2 with descriptions on what makes them different and scenarios why you would need the different versions. The cables I ordered were specifically CSYNC cables and were known good online for going from the PS[1:2] to the OSSC. Also, My Life in Gaming is soo good. :)

CooproxXo1 2 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Your specs are awful

:) +1 love the build

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

lol, thanks ;P I'm hoping the next build is even better...

SwiftSeb 6 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

lmao why so few cores am i right

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Yeah, it's sad. Hopefully one day AMD will release a CPU with a decent amount of cores ;)

SwiftSeb 6 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

word brother

Simulint 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

What made you choose 2990WX? According to PassMark 2950X has better performance than the 2990WX, but only by 6%, and is $849 cheaper. But that is just one benchmark. My curiosity is peaked. Thanks. +1

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

It's a good question. If you're gaming, then you should definitely look at the 2950X as it performs better overall in that department. Gaming has been an issue on the 2990WX, but nVidia fixed most of those issues with the 399.24 release (not all of them, but a good portion). However, outside of gaming, there are real benefits like encoding, rendering, and virtualization which are all things I tend to do here. TL;DR: I can put all 32 cores to great use and see some significant benefits with respect to performance.

ksander 2 points 2 months ago

Beautiful PC, which framerate do you get on GTA?

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

It's a great question, but since I don't own or really play GTA, it will probably remain a mystery to be honest... :) Also, thank you very much.

Flyrobot27 2 points 1 month ago

Few suggestions: If you are going for a water loop eventually, make sure u get a monoblock for the motherboard that cools the VRM. The heatsink on that motherboard is not good at all and will cause component degradation given u r running a 32 core. I know EK has a monoblock for Taichi x399 motherboards be sure to check them out

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

I appreciate the advice, but I've checked the VRM temperatures at 100% load on the Taichi X399M. All of the temps are well within operating specs for the MOSFETs. I'm not concerned that the 2990WX is going to toast the mosfets at 250W. If I were overclocking I would probably look for CPU + VRM blocks so I wouldn't have to compromise on CPU cooling to get the VRMs down in temperature.

Flyrobot27 1 point 1 month ago

If you are running stock it should be perfectly fine. But since u r building a custom loop anyway I would suggest to get that monoblock because u dont want the vrm temp to hold u back

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

The motherboard shows a 1950X which was a placeholder before the 2990WX shipped. Unfortunately, I didn't grab any photos with the 2990WX in place before the build.

Zosto 7 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Nice white glowing little Box ;)

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

It's a little box with some big power behind it...lol. :)

Cobbleborg 1 point 2 months ago

Nice build +1. But how much do u recommend the motherboard?

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

If you're looking to build a small(er) Threadripper build, then it's by far the best (and only) option. The board's been rock solid for me, but remember: I'm not overclocking the 2990WX, and if I do it will be very, very minor. Hope that helps :)

Cobbleborg 1 point 2 months ago

Thank u very much, it’s because the only threadripper motherboard I have heard of being good was the asus rog zenith one, now I am thinking about wether to get the new threadripper 2990wx or just get a 2700x with an asus x470 mobo and water cooled with the same price

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Just remember that the 2990WX isn't a gaming uber-CPU. Yes, you can game on it, but it is definitely geared more towards more "prosumer" tasks like rendering, encoding, etc. Unless you have something that can actually utilize those cores, I'd recommend going with a 2950X. If you can't use 16 cores, then I'd go with the 2700X. It's a great CPU and does many, many things well. It also won't bankrupt you :)

Cobbleborg 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you, guess I’ll go with 2700x since most of what I’ll do is streaming and gaming, and I little video editing

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

The 2700X is a great choice and should handle that with aplomb :)

Wrathscallion 1 point 2 months ago

Hey man, how do you find the cooling for this case?

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

It's mediocre at best. This one suffers from tempered glass syndrome where the tempered glass gets in the way of airflow.

Wrathscallion 1 point 2 months ago

Hmm, this is always my fear with these small form factor cases. This looks absolutely stunning but if it cooks itself I don't think I can justify it :/ Wonderful build though my friend.

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Thanks, appreciate it! The thermals are in check, but there's a bigger issue: there are too few good mATX cases out there. I have a Parvum S2.5 ordered (and still waiting on) and almost all of the parts in this build will go into that case. The benefit is that I got to "stretch" the case as it's custom, and I don't have to worry about the design not having great airflow :)

minenightowl 1 point 1 month ago

Why is the chip in the picture a 1950x?

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

As I commented on earlier, the glamor shots of the motherboard had the 1950X in it. I didn't take any with the 2990WX inserted in it unfortunately (mostly because I forgot to).

gingerman28 1 point 7 days ago

Impressive. Is there no issue of over heating with the Graphics card so close to the m2 card?

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 6 days ago

No, no overheating issues to speak of. The SSD has performed flawlessly.

Jacktraven 1 point 6 days ago

Can I put two RTX2080s in here?

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 6 days ago

You could, yes. Right now, the build has changed significantly from this photo as I've changed motherboards (mATX to ATX) and GPUs (GTX 1080Ti to dual Vega FEs). The only issue with an mATX build is that if you have fewer slots to work with for expansion cards.

Jacktraven 2 points 6 days ago

So what’s the right route to take if I wanted an i9 cpu and dual 2080 GPUs? Can I cram it into this box?

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

You could, but this case doesn't have great airflow so I'd probably go with another mATX case to be honest.

Jacktraven 2 points 5 days ago

would water cooling help? Point is, I'm trying to stick with the smallest form factor possible for an i9 and two 2080s

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

You'll still need airflow. Building an mATX build with those components is very doable, but I wouldn't recommend this particular case for that project. The tempered glass is too close to the case which restricts airflow to where you'd mount the radiators.

DRogGTX -1 points 2 months ago

lol bet the Nintendo is faster than this build.

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Close, but not quite. It's an Analogue SuperNT. It gets the job done, but the FPGA in it isn't faster than the 32-core Threadripper.

KeyteeChan -2 points 2 months ago

So exactly do you realise how much money you just spend?

jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 3 points 2 months ago

Some of these parts were in a previous build like the motherboard, GPU, RAM, SSDs, monitors, custom cables, audio gear. Some were new like the CPU, CPU cooler, and case. While the outlay for all of it is expensive, the expense has been spread out over time. :)

KeyteeChan 0 points 2 months ago

:)

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jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Thanks man, appreciate it! Figured the new CPU deserved some love on PCPP...however, I'm hoping to get the new case here soon and put something a bit more noteworthy up ;)

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jamesthebard submitter 4 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

I'm disappointed, thought there'd be more ;)

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cyc88 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

More like... ThreadRipped off... hehehehehe

Ok I'll leave now