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Corsair Carbide SPEC-04 / Entry Level Gaming Build

by BoyScout

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42 Comments

Details

Date Published

July 1, 2017

Date Built

May 9, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

3.50GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

35.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

55.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.28GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

1.75GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

43.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

66.0° C

Description

This build was designed to be a black/red themed Entry Level Gaming PC with a target budget of around $650. It features Intel's Kaby Lake Pentium G4560 processor and a Radeon RX 570 inside of Corsair's recently released Carbide SPEC-04 Mid-Tower case.

We added the inexpensive Cryorig M9i tower CPU cooler to help direct air out the back of the case while also serving to improve the look of the build (compared to the stock Intel CPU cooler) through the large side window.

You can watch the archive of the live stream to see how it all came together as well as it's first benchmark run after booting.

A big thanks to Corsair for providing the case (and mouse) for this build.

And now, some benchmarks:

Benchmark Score Graphics Score Physics Score CPU Score
TimeSpy v1.0 3428 3759 -- 2289
FireStrike v1.1 8584 12470 5888 --
FireStrike Extreme v1.1 4881 5492 5898 --
FireStrike Ultra v1.1 2672 2747 5741 --
Game Settings Resolution Average FPS CPU Usage CPU Temp GPU Usage GPU Temp
Battlefield 1 High* 1920x1080 52 fps 99.7% 55C -- 66C
Battlefield 1 Medium* 1920x1080 67 fps 99.7% 54C -- 64C
Battlefield 1 Low* 1920x1080 77 fps 99.7% 53C -- 61C
Overwatch Epic 1920x1080 92 fps 82% 54C -- 68C
Overwatch Ultra 1920x1080 102 fps 69% 52C -- 64C
Ghost Recon: Wildlands Very High 1920x1080 54.19 fps 75.1% -- 99.5% 66C
Ghost Recon: Wildlands High 1920x1080 59.35 fps 75.4% -- 97.4% 61C
Ghost Recon: Wildlands Medium 1920x1080 63.28 fps 61.6% -- 97.8% 66C
  • Notes for Battlefield 1 settings: Stock FOV; disabled Weapon Depth of Field; reduced Motion Blur to minimum. Medium settings were the default "Auto" recommendation.

Comments Sorted by:

ImperiousBattlestar 3 points 15 months ago

Looks great nice choice of parts for the price. All when Radeon GPUs weren't being bought up by miners! +1 :)

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 3 points 15 months ago

Thanks! And yes.. It's been a crazy month for video cards!

Justiceinacan 6 Builds 3 points 15 months ago

This is a fine way to spend $600. Totally recommending something similar for a friend of mine considering consoles (shudder)

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 3 points 15 months ago

Nice -- Glad you liked it and thanks for the feedback!

Venenosa 1 Build 2 points 15 months ago

Oh my god! Remember when 570's were $175-$190!!?? good old times! But great build man, amazing little gaming budget pc +1

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 3 points 15 months ago

Indeed. Thanks for the feedback though and glad you enjoyed checking out the build!

Kiracus 2 points 15 months ago

i envy your cable management on this case, mine looks really bad... great job !!

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Thanks -- timing didn't allow us to film a cable management video on this one, but Barry did a great job as usual!

AetherSprite__7 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

Looks very nice and part selection is excellent, great work!

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Thanks for checking it out -- Glad you enjoyed it!

Eltech 19 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Excellent work with this budget build. I like this very much. I'm also happy to see Cryorig's M9i, as I have done two of those in the past with pleasing results (with the i5-6500 & G4560). Thanks for sharing this and plus one.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

We were definitely pleased with the M9i. It does a good job without a lot of noise, looks nice and was super easy to install. Glad you enjoyed the build!

Eltech 19 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

We were definitely pleased with the M9i. It does a good job without a lot of noise, looks nice and was super easy to install.

Happy to know you guys were too. I agree about the low noise, it looks lovely and it's easy to install. I also like how small it is and better RAM clearance.

Glad you enjoyed the build!

Of course, thank you too!

FlyinToasteronie 1 point 15 months ago

This is a very beautiful build! If the case were ITX, it would be the most popular on the market imo

That G4560 seems to be tanking along easily with the RX570.. Have you had any bottlenecks yet?

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Glad you liked it! The case is pretty sleek. It would be interesting to see it even smaller.. but we found it's ATX form-factor made it pretty "builder friendly" for beginners, which is also nice.

We noticed retailer stock on the G4560 starting to struggle as well. It's price has almost risen to it's big-brother (the G4600)'s price point, which still represents a decent deal, but doesn't feel like the same "steal" as picking up the G4560 for $60.

In our benchmarks, things seemed pretty balanced, depending on the game. We definitely saw circumstances where the RX 570 was held back by the Pentium, particularly with CPU intensive games like Battlefield 1. But in others, like Wildlands, you could see the opposite happen. In general, the balance seemed reasonable. Is there a particular game/scenario you were curious about?

FlyinToasteronie 1 point 15 months ago

I was pretty interested in their performance in Battlefield 1 and GTA V. I'm already running a Haswell i7, so I was just curious. No need to test it if you don't have time.

Hector1908 8 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Great video guys . I love how you explain everything through and simple from a to z so easy for the beginners to understand everything . $600 get you not much these days so great budget pc , nice job .

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Thanks for the feedback, and glad you found it helpful!

ACEPCPARTPICKER 1 point 15 months ago

why is there a pcpartpicker logo at the back round

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

You mean on the screens behind the PC? The pictures were taken in the PCPartPicker studio after a live build; a link to the live stream archive is in the description above if you'd like to check it out.

t_willi1 1 point 15 months ago

Wow great looking build. Looking to enter the PC gaming community with a build thats fairly similar regarding the CPU and case. I like how all the parts fit the red and black theme.

Side question though, I see the ram you have is only at 2133 Mhz. How much does that effect performance?

Thank you for the nice build guide along with the build as well. Hope to see more of these budget build guides in the future.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

The CPU and motherboard support memory speeds up to 2400. The performance difference on most games between 2133 and 2400 wouldn't be particularly noticeable, though -- at least not on Intel systems. Memory speeds can greatly impact performance on AMD Ryzen builds.

Anyway, we simply selected an option that matched our design aesthetic and price criteria over worrying about the slight speed difference. (And to be clear, sometimes the opposite happens).

Thanks for the feedback and glad you found the guide useful!

t_willi1 1 point 15 months ago

Interesting... Looking to dive into my first build in the next week or so. Thanks for the heads up about the memory speeds though :)

JacobCarr 1 point 15 months ago

The build looks great!

but I was just wondering, why not get 1 8gb ram stick instead of 2 4gb? Wouldn't getting one 8gb be better do to having the other slot for later down the line if so choose to upgrade your ram and be slightly cheaper?

I'm not very experienced with this sort of stuff but I was just curious.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

The reason we typically select 2 DIMMs is to support dual channel memory configurations for improved performance. But if you're optimizing for upgrade paths and think you may add a second 8GB later, it might be worth sticking with a single 8GB DIMM. The downside of that plan though is that when you do upgrade, it may be difficult to get a matching DIMM.

JacobCarr 1 point 15 months ago

ok makes since, thanks!

master72 1 point 14 months ago

dosent the pentium bottleneck the gtx 1060? also, how did you manage the cables so well?

MADMAXx199 1 point 12 months ago

hows the cpu and gpu? are they a good combo?

IndianaRodgers 1 point 11 months ago

Do you really need a big fat 240gn ssd, those things are expensive, and ssd's are terrible for entry level builds, i'm gonna go with the ryzen build these guys made.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 11 months ago

When this was build, it was an easy addition to an entry level system to provide a nice boost to the overall performance of the OS and any core games you might choose to install to it. SSDs are certainly not terrible in any build, and it ultimately comes down to the trade offs you're personally willing to make. But unfortunately, between rising prices on memory, SSDs and GPUs, it's difficult to recommend an SSD for a similar $500-$600 (USD) budget build right now. In our recent guide updates, we've dropped the 240GB SSD and bumped the 3.5" HDD to 2TB.

kmaguire137 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Is the motherboard good cause I have heard so many bad things about. Thx Îm building kid of a similar pc but the motherboard is msi

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 10 months ago

This motherboard worked great, but "good" is a term that's tough to match up without more details on what you're looking for (price, intended use, etc) from a motherboard in your system.

kmaguire137 1 Build 1 point 9 months ago

thank you so much i have one more question and its about this like mail in rebates they are so complicated should i ignore them?

Merry christmas

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 9 months ago

Merry Christmas!

It's really a pretty personal choice. Some people bank on them for great deals while others consider them a pain and never worth doing. In my experience, it depends on the rebate -- some are super easy, while others can be painful to deal with.

If you're including them to squeeze a budget price down, just remember that you typically have to pay the higher price up front and it can take weeks to get the rebate. The value is often sent as a gift or credit card for the amount of the rebate (read carefully to know for sure), so it's not really the same as being on sale.

Personally, I track items and try to budget by the full price (without rebate). If a rebate happens to apply, then I fill it out -- and when it shows up, it's like a nice bonus to figure out how to spend on another upgrade. :)

kmaguire137 1 Build 1 point 9 months ago

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But their is a cpu I found and I think is good but could you make sure it is better: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZXgPxr/amd-athlon-x4-950-35ghz-quad-core-processor-ad950xagabbox

I really like this site thx

Grahamhiggins 1 point 8 months ago

You could have had better gaming performance by going with AMD and AM4 ryzen 3 1200 for only a little more

Old_Clocker 1 point 8 months ago

wrong .. cause none of the AM4 mATX 350M boards come out of the box ready to use except Asrock!

The BIOS is a disaster on MSI the most it seems but nobody is posting this or the forums and such have been cleaned.

Stay Intel ...

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

We don't delete posts based on content unless it violates our user code of conduct. We would have no reason to purge topics critical (or otherwise) of a product outside of that.

As for BIOS issues, for the most part, we've not run into many notable issues since the first couple months after Ryzen was released, though I'm sure YMMV board to board. That said, we almost always recommend updating BIOS/UEFI firmware on motherboards (Intel or AMD) before getting too far though. "Out of the box" can be pretty out of date depending on how long a motherboard sat on a retailer's shelf.

BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

To be fair, this system was built about a month and a half before the Ryzen 3 1200 was available. ;)

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BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Thanks -- glad you like how it came out!

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BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Yep, it does a good job. Given the target budget, we didn't want to spend too much, so we dropped from ATX to Micro-ATX to save a few dollars and were able to get a decently featured board for the money. The board posts fast, has reasonable expansion options for future upgrades, and of course looks pretty good -- keeping with our black/red theme we were seeking.

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BoyScout staff submitter 21 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Interesting. Thanks for the feedback!

On the cooler, I'd agree that if you don't mind looking at the stock cooler and are really seeking to squeeze a few more dollars out of the initial budget system purchase, then that could work. But for $20-30 the M9i is an example of a pretty good upgrade deal that improves the noise and look significantly over Intel's stock cooler. Also, by using a tower cooler we are moving airflow towards the back of the case. Without that airflow, you'd probably want to add a fan to the back of the case which will run you $15-20 anyway.

As for the PSU, that's a reasonable concern, and in our guide, we actually recommend a selection of 450-550W PSUs for this build.

But realistically, we've currently got 150W of headroom which can easily go a long way on piece-meal upgrades into say i5 and GTX 1070 territory. Even upgrading to something like an i7-7700 and GTX 1080 with this same setup (depending on the card) is workable, only drawing around 350W under max load.