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After working hard, earning some money and slowly upgrading my rig, I finally present you my gaming and working PC

I was already very happy with my previous build, but you all know it, at some point you want more. At first I just bought a KFA2 RTX 2070 (not listed on this platform, thus stating the FE in the parts list), followed by a new case for better air flow and more place, and a new full sized PSU. After that, I replaced my quite low key monitors with two Full HD 144 Hz ones which have FreeSync and are compatible to GSync. Yesterday finally, I installed the new Ryzen 5 3600 and also got it a new motherboard to replace the old ITX one which looked ridiculous in the Meshify C.

The Ryzen 5 3600 is running quite hot currently, despite being cooled by a beefy Dark Rock 3. During Prime95's small FFT torture test, the CPU is getting up to 90 °C hot and is thermal throttling down to 4,0 GHz. During gaming, it is only getting up to 60 °C most of the time with some spikes up to 70 °C. This may have to do with a new and poorly optimized BIOS or with the DIEs of the CPU not being in the center of the heatspreader and the cooler not being able to handle this thermal situation. I am quite shocked to getting those temps, although I have a cooler specified with being able to cool 190 W TDP installed on a 65 W TDP CPU. Well, waiting for coming BIOS and chipset driver updates who hopefully will fix t his horrible situation.

The RTX 2070 has been overclocked with MSI Afterburner's OC Scanner, pushing 2010 MHz @1,05 V, reaching up to 72 °C while fully loaded with games. Memory got a decent +500 Mhz, did not test the maximum stable frequency yet.

RAM still at 3200 MHz @1,35 V and running in coupled mode, meaning that the FCLK (clock of the CPU's infinity fabric) also running at that frequency.

Note: Some pictures are still with the old ITX motherboard.

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  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice temps and nice voltage. If i had a cash to spare right now i would also go for Ryzen 5 3600. May it serve you well.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you sir! Looking at some other results, I think I got quite lucky in the silicon lottery, might try further oc as soon as a new non-beta-BIOS is released. At the current version it is not possible to save oc profiles :/

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

You realize there’s the 2070 SUPER and the 5700 XT right

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

The main reason I don't have it is they simply haven't been released nor even announced when I bought my 2070.

If I would have to make the decision today:

  • RTX 2070 Super is more expensive, you pay around 18% more (according to geizhals.de, comparing the same custom design of both models) while getting only 12% more performance (according to userbenchmark.com)

  • RX5700 XT also has around 12% more performance and is even almost 7% cheaper, but there are only blower cards available (yet) and considering the much higher TDP (+50W!), this would definitely be a no-go considering I want my PC as silent as possible

Regarding those two points, with the given budget I had, I probably would buy a normal RTX 2070 again.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

The 2070 super is same msrp as 2070. Once new 5700XT are out then regular 2070 has no reason at all. I recommend returning your gpu and either getting 5700XT or 2070 SUPER

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

They maybe were the same msrp when they were released. In Germany, the Super 2070 are about 50 to 80 € more expensive than the Non-Super 2070, and looking up prices on newegg gives similiar results (always comparing the same custom designs). My last advice to you is just thinking about it and questioning your logic: Why would NVidia and the retailers sell a more powerful card for the same price? This alone would make no sense and in addition to that, the Non-Super-RTX-Series has just been released shortly, so there still are lots of cards which need to be sold.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Go to NVIDIA website. RTX is same MSRP as regular. this is because of the 5700 launch, so Nvidia launched SUPER at same price to try to suppress the 5700. It didn't work though.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Okay, keep talking about theoretical MSRPs listed on the website and be happy. In the shops, so in reality, the Super cards are more expensive than the regular ones (for example the EVGA RTX 2070 Gaming XC under 500€ against the EVGA RTX 2070 Super Gaming XC at 600€) and given the only small performance gain (about 5 FPS , for example according to this website), it is simply not worth it IMO.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

How's the 3600 doing in the B450 motherboard? Been thinking about upgrading to a 3600 myself but want to save my wallet the X570 mobo prices.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Firstly it must be clarified that you can't generalize all mobos in the case of Ryzen 3000. I've been watching lots of videos and reading lots of reviews and experiences before and after I bought my components, and they vary very strongly:

  • With cheaper mobos (for example MSI Tomahawk or Asus Prime), people had lots of problems flashing a compatible BIOS and setting up their Ryzen 3000 CPU
  • The MSI B450 Pro Carbon seems to be a 50:50 chance, some people also had problems installing the BIOS, but some people - including myself - had no problems at all

All in all, I am happy with this motherboard so far.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Do you have any problems with the RTX 2070 being loud at boot up? Mine is driving me crazy for a few seconds when I first turn it on.