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Project "6": Threadripper SLI in Micro ATX with PETG

by lxtbell2

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Details

Date Published

Dec. 15, 2018

Date Built

Dec. 4, 2018

CPU Clock Rate

3.5 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

30.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

57.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.594 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

8.008 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

34.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

57.0° C

Description

This build is an overhaul of the original build. I switched to Threadripper and decided to go for hard tubing for the first time.

Build Goals

  1. Preserve the "6" shape formed by the tubes of the old build.
  2. Great performance in Micro ATX. (Threadripper + SLI)
  3. Great cooling in Micro ATX. (240 thick + 360 slim)
  4. Fewer bends for a cleaner look. (Currently 6. Considering 4 by using the top inlet of the reservoir, with the help of "aqua pipes" etc)
  5. Easy fan and temperature control. (3 inline sensors + Corsair Commander Mini)
  6. Hidden yet functional fill and drain ports.

Build Log

HardwareLabs Nemesis 360 GTS turns out too wide (133mm) for this case. The case has a shifted top radiator mount that allows the radiator to clear the top part of MB, but makes the GTS collide with the left side panel. I then got XSPC TX360, which fits well (125mm).

I can't get any memory working properly in slot B or C (according to the manual it's either slot AB or CD), and I'm too lazy to disassemble everything to fix it. Fortunately, slot AD works well with dual channel and XMP. (It's a good idea to test components before going liquid if you can. However I don't have any sTR4 cooler and skipped testing)

Loop

Pump -> Front EKWB XE 240 -> XSPC RayStorm Neo -> Top Bitspower "Q" Fitting ->

Temperature Sensor | Fill Valve | Top XSPC TX360 -> Top Bitspower "T" Fitting ->

Temperature Sensor | EKWB Terminal -> Bottom Bitspower "Q" Fitting ->

Temperature Sensor | EKWB 2x45 -> Drain Valve | Pump

Results

I set a fan curve (based on pump water temperature) of 800rpm @ 30C, 1200rpm @ 40C, 1800rpm @ 50C. GPUs haven't been re-pasted for 2 years, which might be why they are a bit hot.

        Battlefield 1   3DMark FS Ultra Stress  Idle
Room    25C             25C                     25C
Fans    1300rpm         1350rpm                 800rpm
Water   41.7C           42.4C                   28C
CPU     57C             55C                     30C
GPU     57C / 51C       63C / 53C               34C / 32C

Comments Sorted by:

VaxtinTheWolf 2 Builds 11 points 4 months ago

Very professional. I can appreciate Black/Red themes.

Nater650 6 points 4 months ago

A threadripper CPU, dual GTX 1070s in SLI, water cooling in the form of a custom loop, and all-SSD storage, in a mATX case??? That’s just insane. That must have blown a fairly large gaping hole in your wallet. What’s next, 3rd generation Threadripper if that becomes a thing and dual liquid cooled RTX cards in SLI?

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

It is an upgrade based on a two year old build. The upgrade cost to Threadripper, new case, new PSU, cooling etc is about $2000. For the RTX cards I guess I will wait till they can feed my 3440x1440p100 monitor with good quality ray tracing.

OrbitalBuzzsaw 1 Build 4 points 4 months ago

It's like a computer, but better

enricko7 1 Build 3 points 4 months ago

I can't get any memory working properly in slot B or C (according to the manual it's either slot AB or CD), and I'm too lazy to disassemble everything to fix it. Fortunately, slot AD works well with dual channel and XMP. (It's a good idea to test components before going liquid if you can. However I don't have any sTR4 cooler and skipped testing)

Aren't you hampering your performance by only using 2 memory channels? Do the other two slots not function no matter what?

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Memories in those two slots either prevent booting with onboard error code 16 or boot and recognized by HWInfo but not by Windows. That's a good point. I'm not sure if slot AD belongs to one die or two dies, but in either case it seems that at least one of the dies doesn't have low latency and high bandwidth memory. I'm considering filling all the four slots, but need to go through all those B-die and other stuff.

Anti-lag 3 points 4 months ago

This makes me feel pretty lazy for not doing any bends in the loop I finished yesterday. I'm betting your memory controller + 3200C16 combo is the problem with getting the other 2 slots working. I had a really tough time getting 4 x 16GB 3200C14 B-die working at 3200C14 with my 2950x. Had to use the stilt's 3200 safe preset, 2T command rate and very specific SoC voltage(too high was unstable, too low was unstable).

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Oh really? Do they work in C15 without tuning? I just used the ones from my old 6700K build, but yeah that might be the issue. Considering filling all the slots now. Can't find a set reliable enough though.

geoffrey_lein 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

mmm smells like feature

Gibbytronix 2 points 4 months ago

Super Clean Build looks great!!

pegotico 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

YEP!! Very nice and clean build! Hope it gets featured! :)

eesti 2 points 4 months ago

0/10 no 2990WX this is pretty cool

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Lol. I did consider 2990WX but many programs seem poorly optimized for its memory architecture.

Tisleet 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

nice build, even better photos

3Prcntr 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

Very nice. Any plans of going with the next batch of GPU's? Not sure how well 2 1070's do with 3440x1440, but it would be an effective upgrade path. Maybe change the prices to only include what you spent this time, since most of it you already had. That is always nice to see, instead of an entire new build every year (or less in todays market).

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I'm seeing 110-130 fps in BF 1 Ultra with SLI 1070's (60 - 80 fps with single card). Yeah the RTX GPUs are quite nice for deep learning, as well as non-RTX gaming. However I'm not sure about upgrading since ray tracing performance seems not sufficient for this monitor, even with only 40% of the screen rendered (BF V Ultra). Also there is no SLI support to help with it.

3Prcntr 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Sorry, I meant the next gen of cards, beyond RTX. No point in upgrading that soon, I agree.

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Oh that's certainly an option!

Logarythym 11 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Congratulations on the Feature! Very clean build with great pictures. How much more difficult was the hard loop than the soft tubing?

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks! To make a parallel hard loop I need to make measurements for fittings (like the 2x45s) after the first batches of stuff is installed, so that took some time. The tube from CPU to top radiator is sort of a headache due to the close distance of the two bends and keeping it perpendicular. Other than those, the hard loop went pretty smoothly.

MaximilianZ 2 points 4 months ago

this is honestly a pretty neat compilation

RoyalSovereign 2 points 4 months ago

Wicked. Really badass...

CooproxXo1 3 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

How is sli treating you?

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

Not bad. 70% average framerate increase in BF 1 and 45% in Witcher 3, with no decrease in 0.1% low framerate. Also handy in training deep learning models.

DaMysteryMan 1 Build 3 points 4 months ago

Well you’re one of the few people who actually needs a rig like this then, nice!

CooproxXo1 3 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Cool!

LilSalmon 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Simple sensational and clean build. Congrats on the feature!

grundlemuncher 2 points 4 months ago

69th upvote. Nice.

charz0r 2 points 4 months ago

Awwww, that's hot.

islandg@m3r 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

Clean build & good job! Take my +1! Since I am scared i will f**** something up if I go for hard tubing, my upcoming 2920X build will have soft tubing R.I.P. LOL xD

Anti-lag 3 points 4 months ago

I just did one, hard tube with no bends, just angled fittings. RIP my wallet.

ZedSamCat 2 points 4 months ago

woah...

LonghornAlamo2040 2 points 4 months ago

All my yes

RyanEl 5 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Love the Arc Midi's. Nice build.

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

That's the Mini (R2) though lol

RyanEl 5 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Ahh, It is! Loved the Arc series .. I saw a black and red air cooled build in once years ago and always loved them since.

dmbartles 2 points 4 months ago

Wow, nice build, must have involved a lot of planning.

LippolisW 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Beautiful build! It's one of the cleanest I've seen.

PC_Edge 2 points 4 months ago

My OCD loves this build. Well-done on those bends. ;)

Yahtadi 2 points 4 months ago

What a good damn job

Aquilian 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

I love it! +1

woahwoahwilly 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

D-D-D DAMN SON!

11/10

PierreVisconti 2 points 3 months ago

Nice build, I'm currently building mine at the moment. My mobo is on its way so I'll finally be able to power up what I have so far in a few days. You can check my build it's on my page, I'm updating it as I go along and obtain all the components.

Javild27 1 point 4 months ago

What do you use this for?

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Mainly programming (hence the 16 core processor) and gaming. Some amateur content creation.

the-doodle-noodle 1 point 4 months ago

1+ but wdym petg? like the plastic? did you add 3d printed things?

Anti-lag 2 points 4 months ago

The tubing is petg.

the-doodle-noodle 2 points 4 months ago

ah ty

blindsharks 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

But why? Why Threadripper with 16GB of RAM and 1070's?

At $5,000 it's obvious price wasn't the deciding factor.

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Because it is an upgrade from a 16GB and 1070's 6700K build. I'm considering upgrading the RAM, but I don't see a need to swap out 1070's. I'm too lazy to install new hardware (with waterblocks etc) with no good reason.

blindsharks 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

16 is a bottleneck for Threadripper, but it's your money you're wasting. Have fun.

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Are you talking about 2 out of 4 channels or 16GB capacity as the bottleneck? Can you elaborate on that?

PierreVisconti 2 points 3 months ago

Well 2 channel ram will bottleneck threadripper a decent amount. You definitely want 4 channel ram or even 8 if you wanna flex hard.

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Gonna upgrade to 4 sticks after figuring out the issue with slot B and C on my board. (See Build Log above) This won't support 8 though.

lxtbell2 submitter 3 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

By the way where can I find comparisons between 2 and 4 channels on Threadripper?

NilsN 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

wOw that front rad is thiccc with three c's. +1

Jushi 1 point 3 months ago

This is just so cool to look at. +2

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