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lamtinghin622

2 months ago

Want to try to build my 1st PC from scratch as old one bought back in 2012. Not playing most demanding games. Mainly Mount & Blade: Warband; Football Manager 2014; Path of Exile But still want new PC to last a good few years without worrying for upgrades. This is what I can think of the most value / performance build. Budget-wise max around £1,200 (live in UK), but I think is overkill too much? Please leave opinions below :-)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £174.78 @ Aria PC
Motherboard Asus PRIME B450-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard £84.78 @ Aria PC
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £58.98 @ Aria PC
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £97.54 @ Amazon UK
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card £152.00 @ Amazon UK
Case Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case £25.86 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £42.63 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £85.98 @ Aria PC
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £740.28
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-18 20:58 GMT+0000

Current Setup:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor -
Motherboard MSI Z77A-G43 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard -
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 16 GB (4 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory -
Storage Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £99.03 @ Amazon UK
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 2 GB Video Card -
Case BitFenix Neos Black ATX Mid Tower Case £36.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Power Supply EVGA 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply £41.94 @ CCL Computers
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM 64-bit -
Sound Card Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-bit 96 kHz Sound Card -
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £186.67
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-19 21:38 GMT+0000

Comments

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Assuming you're happy to up-scale with the suggested £1200 budget:

  • Grab a 3600X for £20 more. 2-3% faster + bundles in a better functioning stock cooler. Or stick with the 3600 and grab an aftermarket cooler with the likes of: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HyTPxr/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-edition-420-cfm-cpu-cooler-rr-212s-20pk-r1

  • Grab a 3000 CPU series optimised motherboard which doesn't require BIOS updates to support the 3600/3600X. These are MSI offerings marked with "MAX".

  • Ryzen is RAM speed/bandwidth prone for best performance. 3600Mhz modules for only 9 quid more.

  • GPU: The RX-580 is now more edging towards a lower/entry level GPU for 1080p 60fps gaming. Granted, for lesser demanding titles it would be a perfect fit. If you want something with a little more flare to handle more modern demanding games on top settings, something like a GTX 1660 SUPER/TI fits the bill very nicely. Essentially, 25-35% increase in graphics performance or in a number of games up to 40-45% gains. In other words, you want something that will last longer with plenty of perf in the tank.

  • Other perks: A better quality case and more importantly you don't want to skimp on the PSU, as the mother-power-ship is key to a "confident" build.

Something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor £205.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £89.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £68.06 @ More Computers
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £97.54 @ Amazon UK
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £222.96 @ Box Limited
Case Thermaltake Versa J22 ATX Mid Tower Case £59.90 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply £63.97 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £85.98 @ Aria PC
Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan £6.95 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC P14 PWM PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan £6.95 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £917.03
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-18 23:36 GMT+0000

If you are targeting higher refresh rate gaming (144hz) you still have plenty of room in the budget to accommodate a beefier GPU. This ones down to personal preference / specific performance targets. For the games you have mentioned the above spec is simply more than sufficient!!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point
  • Happy to upscale :-)
  • Probably will stick with 3600 and buy a after market CPU cooler.
  • Did not know MSI MAX board is ready for AMD Zen2 CPU, probably going with it.
  • Had no idea AMD CPU benefit from higher clock speed RAM, will definitely getting something higher than 3000Mhz.
  • With £70 more, how much better (not sure how you quantify this) is 1660Super than RX590?
  • Caught me out there, was being stingy with PSU, I know I shouldn't, why not non-modular, is it bad?
  • Thanks for your suggestion! I came up with this after reading everyone's reply. Let me know what you think? :-)
  • PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £174.78 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler £19.98 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £83.14 @ Amazon UK
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £68.06 @ More Computers
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 510 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £91.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £222.96 @ Box Limited
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case £55.00 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £64.98 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £124.23 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £922.85
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-19 21:27 GMT+0000
  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks great!!

Nice cooler choice. Only £20 is remarkable! I have the same cooler installed in my brothers gaming build and back then in 2017 (checking the purchased order) this unit was costing around 35 quid.

I know I shouldn't, why not non-modular, is it bad?

PSU modularity is a user preference for easier cable management and does not impact the units performance/quality. The BeQuiet SP9 is a decent unit for moderate workloads. Uses lower quality capacitors and falls short of the efficiency standard we are seeing on similarly priced models. For a higher spec gaming build + free-flowing 12v load regulation, the TXM model sees some major improvements (the EVGA G3 does the job too, only the fan runs a little louder for my personal liking). Might need to double check but from my understanding the SP9 also falls a little short on a couple of included cable length sizes which is a nuisance for mid/full tower builds.

With £70 more, how much better (not sure how you quantify this) is 1660Super than RX590?

The GTX 1660 SUPER sees a 12%-18% performance gain over the RX 590 (depending on game). Draws lesser power, dissipates lesser heat and runs quieter. If your set-up consists of 1080p gaming and locked at 60hz (max 60fps) - the RX 590 also makes sense. For this type of performance range the 590 is a credible choice if we can look past the lesser efficiency concerns, especially considering it's a trim of 70 quid which is a significant save. This ones down to all-round performance targets with a nice dose of cost-evaluated value preference.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £174.78 @ Aria PC
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £89.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £75.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £97.54 @ Amazon UK
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £222.96 @ Box Limited
Case Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case £25.86 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £42.63 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £85.98 @ Aria PC
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £833.45
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-18 22:17 GMT+0000
  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point
  • Thanks for your suggestion! I came up with this after reading everyone's reply. Let me know what you think? :-)
  • PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £174.78 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler £19.98 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £83.14 @ Amazon UK
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £68.06 @ More Computers
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 510 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £91.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £222.96 @ Box Limited
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case £55.00 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £64.98 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £124.23 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £922.85
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-19 21:27 GMT+0000
  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

That looks like one killer of a system!

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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point
  • I think you'd be better off going with the 2700X, also you would have to buy an aftermarket cooler and you probably would with the 3600 as the included Wraith Stealth is nowhere near as good as the Wraith Prism that comes with the 2700X.

  • Gigabyte Elite motherboard is better quality than the Asus.

  • Faster & Cheaper RAM.

  • Much faster Seagate NVMe SSD which has the same read & write speeds of the Sabrent Rocket, 3400 MB/s read & 3000 MB/s write.

  • RX 590 Graphics Card.

  • More spacious and better airflow case, much easier to build in.

  • Fully modular 550 watt power supply, better quality and easier to build with.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor £158.98 @ Laptops Direct
Motherboard Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard £88.92 @ Amazon UK
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN TUF Gaming Allian 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 510 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £91.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Video Card PowerColor Radeon RX 590 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card £149.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case £55.00 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £64.98 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £85.98 @ Aria PC
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £773.56
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-18 22:15 GMT+0000
  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points
  • I think I will stick with 3600 for Zen2 rather than Zen+, as I think 6 cores should still be viable in the next few years.
  • Might get MSI Max if it can bypass the BIOS update, was thinking to buy CPU and motherboard at AriaPC and ask them to do the BIOS.
  • Did not know AMD CPU benefit from higher clock speed RAM, might go for 3600Mhz ones.
  • Seagate SSD 1TB seems a great deal, how did I miss that...
  • I am telling myself the performance gap between 1660Super and RX590 should justfiy the £70? With GDDR6 RAM?
  • Love the case you suggested!
  • Fully modular PSU seems confusing...
  • I don't mind a budget increase from original post, as long as not blindly chasing performance that I don't need :-)
  • Thanks for your suggestion! I came up with this after reading everyone's reply. Let me know what you think?
  • PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £174.78 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler £19.98 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £83.14 @ Amazon UK
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £68.06 @ More Computers
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 510 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £91.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £222.96 @ Box Limited
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case £55.00 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £64.98 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £124.23 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £922.85
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-19 21:09 GMT+0000
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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Removed some superfluous items and got a 2060 (shouldn't be too far behind a 5700/2060 Super, but better than a 1660 Super)

Also added a decent aftermarket cooler, some PWM fans and a meshed case with a TG side panel

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £174.78 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler CRYORIG M9a 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler £22.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £89.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £68.06 @ More Computers
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £89.97 @ CCL Computers
Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £299.00 @ Box Limited
Case Deepcool E-Shield ATX Mid Tower Case £35.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply £63.97 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit £107.38 @ More Computers
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.99 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.99 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £961.59
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-18 23:44 GMT+0000
  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point
  • 2060 too much overkill I think, at best I probably will going to play FM20, FIFA20, Rocket League, POE might be a bit more demanding...
  • I know I spend more on CPU is not very balanced, was thinking to upgrade GPU in 3~4 years...
  • Thanks for your suggestion! I came up with this after reading everyone's reply. Let me know what you think? :-)
  • PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £174.78 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler £19.98 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £83.14 @ Amazon UK
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £68.06 @ More Computers
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 510 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £91.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £222.96 @ Box Limited
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case £55.00 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £64.98 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £124.23 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £922.85
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-19 21:27 GMT+0000
  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks pretty good, I’d suggest the following changes

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £174.78 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler CRYORIG M9a 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler £22.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £83.14 @ Amazon UK
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £68.06 @ More Computers
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 510 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £91.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card £222.96 @ Box Limited
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case £52.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £64.98 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive £8.75 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £124.23 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan £4.49 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £918.84
  • The 200R is from 2012, so it will lack in features (airflow is poor, no cable management options, etc). Swapped it for a Fractal Design Focus G (it should be much better)
  • Better CPU cooler

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