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What would be a good Ryzen alternative?

slashbrackets

2 months ago

Here is my build. I simply want to know the answer to two questions.

Please, bear in mind. This build is just to allow a camera and video streaming service which both connect via USB. So, there is no need for a graphics card. On-board graphics is desired.

  1. Is Ryzen a better choice?
  2. If so, what would be the best Ryzen chip and Mobo to pair?

Thanks and my parts list is below.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $24.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard ASRock Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $114.00 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $54.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case $51.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $79.70 @ Amazon
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan $8.27 @ Amazon
Monitor BenQ GW2480 23.8" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor $99.00 @ Adorama
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $712.91
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $692.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-02 20:06 EST-0500

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  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor $139.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $54.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $52.98 @ Newegg
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan $8.27 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor $89.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $576.19
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-02 20:18 EST-0500

3400G has the best iGPU.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Quad core? The I5 I have has 6 cores. ?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

The 3400G has 8 threads as well.

Also, there isn't a Ryzen with more than 4/8 with a iGPU.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Leaves me wondering if the i5 I have is better than this Ryzen?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Clock speed, yes.

threads, no

iGPU, no

price, no

upgradibility, no

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

What if we need to add a graphics card later for some reason? Would CPU be lagging behind the i5?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

For faster software encoding - Ryzen's value plan with multiple cores and multi-thread compute performance takes the win. This type of arrangement would require a discrete graphics card as higher core count Ryzen processors do not support integrated graphics. This is where the "value" turns a little ugly as you'll be forced to spend more for a graphics card.

If you're supporting single 1080p 60fps encoded streams (or lesser demanding performance targets), the intel i5 path with integrated graphics is simply more than adequate with plenty of juice in the tank. Either of the following 2 options will suffice: i5-9400 ($130) or for 12-14% faster single threaded performance, the i9-9600K.


THE ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION (incl. discrete graphics card)

Seeing you're willing to fork out around $700 for the build, a faster multi-threaded CPU with discrete graphics is achievable "for" less:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $119.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $54.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI GeForce GT 710 2 GB Video Card $53.00 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case $61.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Corsair
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan $8.27 @ Amazon
Monitor BenQ GW2480 23.8" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor $99.00 @ Adorama
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $637.20
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-02 21:10 EST-0500

Or, if your software based encoding fancies something a little more robust with 8 cores + multi-threading for the long run (encoding process flexibility to higher quality output or higher resolution streams) - The Ryzen 2700X is achievable for only $160 and comes bundled with a pretty decent stock cooler. Eg.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $159.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $54.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI GeForce GT 710 2 GB Video Card $53.00 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case $61.00
Power Supply Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Corsair
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan $8.27 @ Amazon
Monitor BenQ GW2480 23.8" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor $99.00 @ Adorama
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $675.23
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-02 21:14 EST-0500

Keep in mind, a dedicated GPU also opens up doors for multi-display arrangements (if that's something you might fancy in the long run).

BOTTOM LINE: For a $700 encoding/streaming build - the 2700X + GPU is a blast!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you, this was VERY insightful!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

It's telling me "MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard and AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor are not compatible."

Ideas?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Ignore the compatibility error. It's a mistake on the PCPP's part. The newer MAX motherboards are fully compatible with 2nd and 3rd GEN Ryzen CPUs.

Manufacturers official spec/compatibility sheet: https://asset.msi.com/pdf/main/global/presale_v2/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX?

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