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Great AMD Gaming/Streaming Build

Description

CPU

At this budget, we're using the AMD Ryzen 5 2600X. Added to the list is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition, which will perform better and more quietly than the stock cooler.

Note: If you'd prefer to consider a similar build, but instead using an Intel processor, be sure to check out our Great Intel Gaming Build Guide.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for ATX B450 chipsets and up to 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build, and it will automatically update with the best priced option as prices change.

Memory

For our memory, the parametric filter finds the best price on 16GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-3000 and faster speeds, as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory.

Storage

We're use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 1TB of space. We have also added a parametric filter for a 2TB mechanical drive for mass storage, such as extra games and videos. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to add or remove capacity to your heart's desire.

GPU

For our GPU, the Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 is one of the best price for performance cards on the market. The RTX 2060 will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like PUBG) at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Apex Legends. It'll also handle Fortnite with zero issues. For those interested in VR, this card will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

For streaming, the newly-updated NVENC encoding will offload the task to the GPU with a minimal performance hit using OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) while providing image quality similar to or better than x264 Fast quality.

To keep the noise and temperatures down, we've updated the filter to include a minimum length to avoid "mini" versions of the card, which prioritize fitting into small builds, such as an ITX case. You can choose to use this filter instead, if you want to include the smaller cards for any reason. Note that smaller cards will be louder or hotter - or both.

Case

All of our parts are on display in the Phanteks Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass. This case features a clean design and a tempered glass window. It includes 2x front panel USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports, a PSU shroud, and a number of cable management holes and tie-offs to help your build look cleaner. It can also fit full-sized video cards.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed semi or fully modular units, all of which are 80+ Gold certified or above and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Intel Version

Here is the Intel version of our Great Gaming Guide.

Compatibility: No issues or incompatibilities found.

Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
Base
€159.99
Promo
Shipping
€4.95
Tax
Price
€164.94
Where
Buy
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler
Base
€34.90
Promo
Shipping
Tax
Price
€34.90
Where
Buy
Motherboard ASRock B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard

From parametric filter: Form Factor: ATX; Chipset: AMD B450; Memory Slots: 4 - 16

Base
€98.77
Promo
Shipping
Tax
Price
€98.77
Where
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Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory

From parametric filter: Speed: DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3333; Modules: 2 x 8GB

Base
€69.12
Promo
Shipping
Tax
Price
€69.12
Where
Buy
Storage TCSunBow X3 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive

From parametric filter: Capacity: 960 GB - 15360 GB; Type: SSD

Base
€91.99
Promo
Shipping
Tax
Price
€91.99
Where
Buy
Storage Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

From parametric filter: Capacity: 2000 GB - 15360 GB; Type: 7200RPM; Form Factor: 3.5"; Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s

Base
€64.00
Promo
Shipping
Tax
Price
€64.00
Where
Buy
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB OC Video Card

From parametric filter: Chipset: GeForce RTX 2060; Length: 223 mm - 403 mm

Base
€379.90
Promo
Shipping
€4.95
Tax
Price
€384.85
Where
Buy
Case Phanteks Eclipse P300 ATX Mid Tower Case
Base
€76.00
Promo
Shipping
Tax
Price
€76.00
Where
Buy
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

From parametric selection: Show

Base
€79.99
Promo
Shipping
Tax
Price
€79.99
Where
Buy
Base Total: €1054.66
Shipping: €9.90
Total: €1064.56
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Comments

  • 14 months ago
  • 81 points

This is not a good build at all. Where do I begin? Let us just go in order. The motherboard has bad ratings and has problems including boards being DOA and headers not working and even one frying out a cases led's. Not good. The ram has HORRIBLE timings as well as not being fast enough to get the most from the 2600 x because of the infinity fabric. You will be leaving performance on the table as 3200 is the sweet spot. I haven't checked but it would surprise me if that ram was Samsung B-die which makes a potential triple whammy of issues. Next is the ADATA SSD. Over 44% of ratings at one place alone rate this SSD at 2 stars OR UNDER with a high failure rate. That means almost a 50% chance of that drive crapping out on you or being dead right out of the box. I would not buy any pc part with that high of a crap rating. I wouldn't buy a vacuum cleaner with that high a crap rating let alone ANY pc part. Why would you take that kind of chance? Next is the Ultrastar HDD, which is basically the same issue(s) as the SSD. The cherry on top of all of this is that the price for the Phanteks case is for Newegg Business which not everyone can get which means the actual price for most of us is actually $59.99 and not $55.98. If you got these parts you better put your hands together and pray to your deity of choice because you will need the help hoping this lasts you more than a year at most before something will have to be replaced. Sure it looks good if you don't do any research and don't know/understand what the hell you are looking at.

  • 14 months ago
  • 22 points

Finally, someone who doesn't simply praise the guide or asks is this good enough for X?

Could you also provide solutions to the problems you are pointing out?

  • 14 months ago
  • 25 points

The main thing that would fix a lot of these problems is doing research. It may sound boring but as with anything else you are going to spend good money one you want to make sure you are getting the parts that will do what you want and not crap out on you while doing it. Watch reviews on youtube by several different people, read reviews on several sites and maybe get first-hand knowledge from anyone you might know. If 40% of the reviews say part x is crap across several different sites, then it probably is, especially if it's one of the cheapest models of that part. Despite this, there is a chance that a part you get is dead out of the box, but that is the nature of buying manufactured parts, every now and then you will get a dud, it happens.

The problem here seems to be 3 fold... 1. The main posters on here (ThoughtA and Manirelli) can't seem to do a good build on here if their lives depended on it imo. I don't know their credentials and they could be 2 dudes in their mother's basement for all I know but man alive. For example, I have actually seen them say on more than one occasion that single channel memory is fine because the benefits of dual channel (using 2 sticks of memory as opposed to 1) is negligible. This is WAY WRONG. Your fps will suffer greatly if you go with one stick to save money. They also use the parametric filters the choose the cheapest parts they can (most of the time) which leads to the problems of choosing the crappiest parts for their builds. As I said, I wouldn't take those kinds of odds on a vacuum let along my $500, $1000, $1500 etc build. You are literally just asking for problems. If you can you take that potential problem out of the equation, you do it and not add to it.

  1. They way they label their builds on here. They label them from "entry level to magnificent" which is VERY misleading. Those names have nothing to do with the quality or capability of the builds but just a moniker to put on them according to the tier of the build within a stack of builds in their opinion. So one of their builds could be labeled "magnificent" but have the very same problems as the "entry level" build which shouldn't be problems at all, to begin with.

  2. The fact that, as you have pointed out, damn near everyone just says "great build, fantastic build, etc...) when if just a little bit of research would be done, I'm talking 5 freaking minutes, you or ANYONE would come across the same problems that I have. It literally boggles my mind as to how seemingly no one can see what I am seeing. If you needed to buy a new battery for your car or a new tv would you purposefully buy one with a rating where 35-45% of the time the battery or tv will be absolute crap? Again, I would hope the hell not but that doesn't stop them from doing it over and over and over with, as you said, everyone praising them for it. One more thing that they do in regards to the Ryzen builds, is the constant use of 3000 memory. As you may or may not know 3200 is the sweet spot for Ryzen due to the infinity fabric interconnect in the chip. anything slower than 3200 and you ARE AND WILL cost yourself performance ESPECIALLY in games. With the prices coming down on ram especially there is no reason (unless for some reason your motherboard cannot use memory that fast or you simply can not afford for some reason to go with 3200 over 3000) that you should be using anything slower than 3200mhz ram period. This is a known fact, not opinion, fact. It may not be a great difference but it is enough, and again why purposefully hinder your build? I hope this answers some of your questions. Thanks for asking and have a good one.

  • 14 months ago
  • 8 points

I get your frustration. I'm personally inclined to give everyone the benefit of the doubt though. I knew the 3200 ram thing, didn't think much of it that it's not selected for in the build though.

As far as I am concerned your critizim seems legitimate. Explanations that I can come up with why there isn't more scrutiny on the side of other posters:

  • people are lazy (i.e. making sure all parts are actually good takes considerable effort)
  • wanting an easy solution
  • some certainly are simply new to this (I see so many "My first build" posts)
  • price point vs claims about performance matches expectations (i.e. confirmation bias)

I think that the 5min to find the problems with these builds that you claim are a huge underestimation I would attribute to your experience. I happens to me too in other circumstances: when I think something should take me x amount of time others less experienced would take a lot longer. From my experience part of the problem there is that someone inexperienced doesn't even know where to look. This I guess ties in with being new to building computers for many.

So I think the best thing for you to do, besides pointing out all the things wrong with these guides, is to promote your own guides on every one of these builds. Seriously, I would love to see a moderate budget build from you, or one that you can recommend, best case along with some thoughts or pointers what your considerations were to choose the individual parts.

I especially like your point about making sure to spend money in a smart way. I find that often people spend a lot of time and energy about small purchases but through all of that out the window on larger "one time" purchases.

Anyways, thanks for the reply!

  • 13 months ago
  • 0 points

Teohelm - So I clicked on your profile and I was just hoping you had a build sitting out there for between $500 and $1K. But did not see anything at all.

You have any builds you care to share with the community?

My goal right now is to build a gaming PC that is worthy of our gaming lounge that is sub $1K. Case wise I like the Thermaltake P3 because it is looks cool and you can mount it on the wall.

That being said - you have any build guides you want to share with everyone?

  • 13 months ago
  • 4 points

Here are 3 new builds I did on the quick using atx, micro atx and mini itx form factors. They are a touch over 1k but there ya go.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Teohelm/saved/qQqskL https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Teohelm/saved/mmgskL https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Teohelm/saved/6PnQqs

  • 13 months ago
  • 3 points

Thanks for your comment. I'm a complete noob and almost used this guide because it was featured. Your links are 404'd, however I was wondering if you have any good guides for a streaming/gaming setup at ~$1k.

Best

  • 13 months ago
  • 3 points

all 404'd, do you still have these builds

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  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

I do have 1 build sitting at about $587 called "BoneZ" at the bottom of my list. I tend not to do low cost builds just cuz they are not as much fun for me to do, but I will do one and send you a link. As far as any build guides to share, I'm not much into doing that, but you and anyone else is welcome to look at my list and ask any questions you may have.

Also, don't think of it so much as "being worthy", especially to everyone else, it should make you happy and know you did the best you could with what you have to spend. It doesn't have to be a showpiece for that.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Do you like reddit or Quora better and why?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

i have one only abit more than 1000$ Check it out here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TdT7QZ

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Went ahead and updated your build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6zdkV6 With tax, it should squeak in right around $1000. (Now if you don't calculate tax, there's a small chunk of money for you to play around with. Maybe more fans, or another drive, etc.)

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  • 11 months ago
  • 3 points

Sounds like you are set by now but this is my usual process in order:

  • Video Card and Monitor - Determine the resolution, games you want to play, and the video card you want. I only get top-rated cards because I am don't want any hassle. Consider upgrading your monitor to match your video card capabilities like resolution and refresh rate, type of sync support. Then subtract that amount from your overall budget and see what you have left.

  • CPU - Choose your CPU, one that won't bottleneck your video card but you probably don't need a professional/Xtreme one, just good consumer grade. Search online to see if the next generation of CPUs is about to drop soon (July 7, 2019!) because so will prices, or you can get the new hotness. For most games you are looking first at single-threaded performance, and most chips have at least 6 cores now. Streaming, dunno about it.
    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

  • Motherboard - Once you narrow it down, find a compatible motherboard with the right socket on Newegg. Sort by ratings and only buy 5-star items. Returns or warranty issues suck worse than paying a bit extra. I have been on a good streak with my current fave manufacturer so they get an extra look. I usually end up with the second-most-expensive line with the better capacitors etc, but never Ultimate with future-proof features. Don't need one with integrated graphics since you have video card, but is can be convenient.

  • RAM - Go to the motherboard web page and check for compatible memory sticks and number of sticks. Or vise-versa, you can check with the memory manufacturers to see what are the qualified motherboards. They are more motivated to keep updating compared to the mobo makers. You can also search here to see if the combination has worked somewhat recently. Memory speed matters more for some sockets than others, may be able to go cheap or you may want to research good timings or chips for overclocking. Filling up all slots can allow more memory bandwidth. Many people seem fine with 16 GB of RAM, but check your games or if you are doing video then more. I would go for 32 GB. AMD has some weird RAM preferences, read up.

  • Storage - I splurged and got 970 Pro 1TB at work, but would probably go 970 Evo Plus at the moment for myself. NVME M2 from now on, not SATA M2 watch out. Compare drive performance: https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Adata-XPG-SX8200-Pro-NVMe-PCIe-M2-1TB-vs-Samsung-970-Pro-NVMe-PCIe-M2-1TB/m638791vsm497261

  • Cooling/Case - I have only ever done air and always over-do it, with the top 3-4 most performant (huge) HSF. You need to get a case that has room for the air cooler you want. Newegg specs now list cooler clearance (and video card clearance) for almost all case models. But you may want liquid, especially if overclocking, which requires a case to have radiator options that can cover what you intend. Consider buying after-market fans, how many and how quiet you want and can afford. You want slightly more air pressure into the case than out so you avoid sucking in dust. Get one with an easily cleanable dust filter, especially if the computer is on the floor. Get a case that has the buttons and USB sockets on the top or on whichever side will be convenient. I don't need drive cages any more and we use a usb dvd burner so no front slots needed. I hate to pay more than about 50 but we have a PO box so cannot do the rebates.

  • Power supply - Now you know all your requirements you can get your PSU. Get a good one. Only some brands meet their specs, and I am out of the loop on which now. This site adds up your power requirements which is nice but not exact. One thing to look for if you are considering a powerful video card is whether the PSU has the extra cable and plugs for that. Many times you can get these on sale or with rebate but rebates suck if you can even do it right.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for that answer. I'm not actually set yet. Especially since the new AMD announcements. I will only be able to buy a new machine towards the end of the year. So I even have the luxury to wait how good AMD things really are.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Maybe 15% increase in instructions per clock so should pull ahead overall and the factory price is lower. Like the 3600X is looking good at $229 8/16 cores 4.0/4.8GHz and with bigger caches. 8700K price is holding pretty steady at $360 so far. They do have some actual 5.0 GHz turbo rated ones in the 100+ Watt range. Not sure if they boost on one or all cores. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-everything-we-know,38233.html And there is PCIE 4.0 on the 500-series motherboards if you care.

  • 14 months ago
  • 5 points

This build does not have specific part selections. For a lot of it it uses parametric filters to choose the lowest price item that matches the filter so it adjusts to the current deals. Pretty sure this is just a rough guide. If you just buy everything on the list blindly, that's on you.

  • 14 months ago
  • 3 points

First, for the parametric filters that they use, yes, they are to select the cheapest part for the filter. Problem is that when you do that for ram, HDD, power supply, MB, you can and usually will end up with crap, which is exactly what happened in this build as well as other builds they do, regardless of the price of the overall build. No thanks.

Second, for this being a "rough guide", even if that is the case, you should never ever get the cheapest good luck to you crap unless you absolutely need a build and can not afford anything better. Even then I would rather look on eBay or the used market, so that too is a fail that they are purposefully perpetuating over and over knowing that a lot of people who don't necessarily know what others know will look to for an example of which parts to pick which is wrong IMO. It's probably safe to say that a good amount of people who come here are not enthusiasts and are looking for guidance and "get the cheapest stuff you can" is not the right guidance.

Third, as for buying everything blindly being on the buyer, read my above point.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

"Problem is that when you do that for ram, HDD, power supply, MB, you can and usually will end up with crap"

"would rather look on eBay or the used market"

That's all I needed to see. That's the worst advice I've ever seen. You want to explain how a new part with a warranty and return policy is worse than a second hand product that may have been mistreated beyond belief? Most of the cheap products are just rebranded versions of a reputable company. How many factories do you think RAM and HDD's come from? Only thing to be worried about cheaping out on in all honesty is the PSU.

If you don't use a parametric filter, your list won't account for changing prices or big sales on good products. Within a week your list will be outdated.

  • 13 months ago
  • 6 points

I would be happy to explain. Let's take the HDD in this build for example, just at Newegg alone of all the people who bought this particular HDD it has a 33% rating of 2 stars or less with a high rate of drives that were either doa, faulty in some capacity or failed shortly thereafter. For a meager $1.50 more you can get a WD blue that is way more reliable but due to the filter, this crappy drive (IMO) was the one automatically chosen. A good quality used part can be better than a new low quality/high issue one any day long as it wasn't abused like a used GC used for mining.

Another example would be ram, by using the filter and getting the cheap ram, not only will it more than likely be 3000mhz or slower, but with horrible cas16 timings which is not only very bad for gaming as far as 1% lows and minimums, but if you are doing a Ryzen build you are costing yourself noticeable gaming performance due to holding back the ability of the processor. Not only that but the odds are also that the ram won't be Samsung B-die which can cause compatibility issues as well with Ryzen. None of that is any good or worth the risk to save a couple of bucks if unnecessarily.

Any parts you have in your build will automatically change as it goes on sale due to the default setting of "Use Current Lowest Price From Your Preferred Merchants" by clicking on the little gear next to the buy button. That being said some merchants aren't always listed even if that particular merchant carries said part which is another issue the programmers of this site need to fix. Even if they don't, Google is your friend, that's what it's there for and you can always input your own price if you found it somewhere that's not automatically listed.

Remember a good pc IS the sum of its parts, not just one or two, but all of them, one crappy part can stifle a builds ability to do what you want to it's best ability or even not work at all. I would rather spend a little more on parts (as I would think anyone would, if possible) to minimize that risk as much as possible for the best overall experience, longevity, and performance, but that's just me.

Just getting the cheapest parts you can and worrying about it later, that's the worst advice I have heard. A lot of those low price parts have horrible ratings FOR A REASON. In the end, it's your money, do what you want but...

One thing you are right about, the PS is absolutely the last thing you want to cheap out on as it can fry the whole shebang. On that, we agree.

  • 13 months ago
  • 3 points

To hop in here, this build reminds me of something a custom builder might do to hit an unreasonable price point for a customer.

You have to leave 20-30% $$$ for your time, thus, putting that extra 20-30% $$$ into quality parts probably takes away the headroom that you need to do the build, and charging that extra amount to the customer probably ruins the sale.

So yeah. The title is more of how the build would be marketed than the truth.

I’m working on a sub 1k build and I can only get an RX 580 in there as I want the machine to actually run cool and have fast load times to be a good fit for audio production, gaming, and streaming.

When I saw this build I was like wtf how did you get a RTX card in there under 1k?!!!

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm not quite sure I follow.

If you are talking about a computer shop/pro builder doing it for you, then yes there will be a charge for that unless the person happens to be your friend or something maybe, and if anyone who asks me for help intends on doing just that, they have never said as much to me and I would have to assume that if that is indeed the case that they are taking that into account when they give me a price range, that's on them.

If you are talking about me personally, I do not charge for giving friendly (and hopefully) useful advice, just trying to do my part to help the community and make it better as a whole if possible while talking about something I very much enjoy, that's what I get out of it.

The parts I use for my builds are quality parts (at least as far as I am aware through lots of research) as I do not believe in choosing crap just to get a build at a certain price point which the main posters at this site do a lot. (shots fired)

As far as the RTX card being in an under 1k build, I can only assume you mean the one called "Pharen's build" which is under 1k, but the price for the ram I have selected is not being counted as it is out of stock, which you probably didn't notice and I have yet to change as of replying to this msg.

Have a good one.

  • 13 months ago
  • 3 points

I am talking about the build we are commenting on. The build has an RTX 2060 in it, and is <1k. Again, this looks like a build you do as a seller. Have you ever taken apart an HP or Dell, or thought how do they get those specs at that price and still make money?

It’s because some of the parts they use are not of a great quality, instead, the parts are “good enough”.

That is what I see here. Quality processor. Quality dGPU. Everything else here is...ok...

But I could go to a client, who has no idea wtf I’m doi;g and say, “hey, I can build you a Ryzen 5 2600 with a RTX 2060 and 16 gig of ram for just $1300!” And they’d be like, “oh boy! That’s way cheaper than ______”.

That’s what I see here, in ThoughtA’s build. And the build is nothing to get mad about, I just think this is the kind of build you end up having to do because if you spec a legit PC at this range your client will probably balk.

  • 11 months ago
  • 3 points

very true. like IK this is from parametic filters but PICK THE PARTS YOURSELF. like The cheapest might be some crap old thing with has bad ratings. i am no PC pro and is learning but i can see this Build is trash

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

I agree. I'm a complete noob, researching my 1st build and I use the parametric filter as a tool and a guide. I don't look at it like a magic 8 ball in that whatever pops up to the top is what I should buy. I can't believe anyone would be picking their parts this way.

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

http://www.logicalincrements.com/ is great but of course, don't skip your background research.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I have never seen that website before, thanks for the link.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

You know you can overclock ram, right?

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Buy around 3000 and OC up to 3200. Most ram is more than capable of an OC like that, if not, that's just bad ram.

Also, I'd usually take bad reviews with a grain of salt, especially DoA.

Considering how many things you can do wrong to fry a board, all it takes is forgetting to ground yourself and one little zap can fry your board.

For the most part though, you do have some genuinely good points.

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes, I am well aware that you can OC ram, although there is no guarantee depending on what ram and what MB because of compatibility reasons, silicon lottery, bios and whatever the hell else, it doesn't automatically mean the ram is "bad". I also do take doa reviews with a grain of salt because as with any manufacturer, it will happen, but I tend to also look at how many doa's there are. If it's more than a handful or some here and there, that very well could indicate a problem, especially if there are doa reviews to a good degree across multiple retailers. You should read reviews from several places, not just 1 or 2 or just wherever you plan on purchasing said product.

As far as grounding, it's not near as much of an issue as it was say even 10 years ago due to built-in ESD protection, but I would recommend grounding yourself just to be safe.

  • 13 months ago
  • 0 points

Please keep it polite.

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  • 11 months ago
  • 0 points

Comments like this will not be tolerated on our site.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Where are you finding the SSD ratings? As sold on Amazon with 73 reviews, it averages at 4.7/5. Sounds fine to me? I'm asking sincerely because I am working on my first ever build and I used that as my SSD choice for the price/ratings. Do you have insight as to why this is so bad?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm sorry, I'm a little lost as to what SSD you are referring to. The one for this build? The ADATA one?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Yep! And I mean no disrespect. I was purchasing it for my build because it was $79.99 and had a 4.7/5 on Amazon with many a ton of reviews.

Your comment scared me, so I returned it and replaced it with an M.2. Intel 660p 1TB drive instead for a little more lol. This is my first build (starting it tonight!)

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi I'm a novice builder and don't know much about how good the hardware that I'm using in my builds is by the way it's a around 1000$ build and mini itx so can you please give me your feed back and it is meant for streaming,school,video editing, and of course gaming. Gaming looking to play fortnite,pubg,overwatch, and more like them thank you if you decide to look at it. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/J3r3miah/saved/t97Gcf

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Would a Vega 56 not be a better buy at the prices they are going for? The 56 is $100 less than the 2060 and with a 64 bios flash, undervolting the core and overclocking the memory, it's hands down better value for you money. I'd say a 2060 is a horendous waste of money. $500 for 6GB of mediocre performance?

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  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm not going to do the build for you (for various reasons), but you are more than welcome to look at any of my builds, modify them as you see fit and ask me any questions you may have from there. If you need some help understanding what things are/mean, remember that google and youtube are your friends and as I said I will answer some questions as well.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

@Teohelm. do you mind looking at my build labelled my custom build and tell me what i need to change. im trying to keep the budget below 1.2k.

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  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Message me what you want to do with the pc and some specifics, like 1080p or 1440p gaming, e sports or AAA title. That sort of stuff.

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  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Don't spam.

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  • 15 months ago
  • 26 points

thanks. I have spent the past 2 days putting together a similar build doubting certain things. I like this setup. i was really torn on the graphics card and going with the Ryzen 7. I created this account to say thank you.

  • 15 months ago
  • 10 points

No problem! Thanks for the kind words.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

do you think this is also good? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/784bgw

  • 15 months ago
  • 6 points

Motherboard and Ram wise your list would be better. The 2600 vs 2600x is just clock speed difference, you can overclock with an aftermarket cooler.

If you don't need the huge 1tb ssd and don't want gold rated psu your list looks just fine! Also the stock cooler will work, but keep an upgrade such as the one in the list above in mind. I'm currently looking at the 212 black rgb version for my ryzen pc. The stock cooler will be louder and not as efficient especially when going for an overclock

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

would my PSU cause any problems in the future or is it fine for this build? and I plan on keeping the stock cooler but I won't be overclocking. thank you again for answering!

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Should be fine, google says the 2060 uses around 170watts.

The one you have spec'd is the same one I put in my build! I chose the 600watt as it was a good price and i thought gave some good headroom without being overkill.

  • 12 months ago
  • -1 points

It is a little too much for your system right now since it has a wattage of about 350W but if you are planning to upgrade in the future you could keep it.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

In My opinion, you could go cheaper with ram manufacturer

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

My opinion if you are spending up to $1100 you should get a 2070

  • 13 months ago
  • 0 points

its good, but i think i have a better idea for that https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Greasy-Peanut/saved/XgnTCJ

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

I agree with "Marker06", you could go with a cheaper RAM manufactuer. But, other than that its a solid pc. I depends what your using the PC for but, in my opinion i think its a solid "budget pc".

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

this is not a good build, I understand you used the parametric filters, but do some damn research, for anyone going to build this.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/J3r3miah/saved/ZYh7TW Is this any good? New to building pc's and would like to know if this would like to play games at 1080p and over 60fps. Thanks

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Team - T-Force Delta RGB 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory - With the Phanteks case you are looking at I wouldn't worry about the fancy RGB Ram sticks and spend the extra bit of money on getting some 3200 16gb Ram which leads me onto my next point...… although you can run a lot of games on 8gb of ram its not going to be long before 8gb+ is req with some titles already needing more so really consider spending that little bit extra just to future proof.

P.S. Also consider a semi-decent cpu cooler - although the AMD stock cooler isn't the end of the world with this setup nothing beats abit of extra cooling.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KCKx7W Is this build any better my budget now is $1000 and I'm mostly going to play fortnite and overwatch will this make a good gaming experience and if not can you tweak it if you can and make suggestions also would like to keep to one company

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I think you got it much better this time. I don't really understand why people spend so much money on cases: you did well in choosing one that is better priced. It's not a rule, but picking a case that costs more than the RAM sticks in your build just feels wrong IMO. Those 2x8GB DDR4-3200MHz sticks are the way to go... Just be sure to check compatibility in Asus MB website or in Corsair website. If you are worried about that (I would worry about compatibility), G.Skill is a good alternative to Corsair and they keep a nice database of recommended motherboards for their RAM sticks which they tested: https://www.gskill.com/en/configurator

Anyway, I would ditch the 54$ of cooler master fans and get just one or two 120mm Arctic fans. I would get rid of RGB, but if you REALLY, REALLY like Christmas trees, it's up to you :P. Especially if you're going for a water cooling solution you can probably do well with just 1 front 120mm fan (I assume that the NZXT case includes a rear end 120 mm fan, otherwise, get one to put it there).

One comment about CPU cooling: if you're not planning to overclock the CPU (which maybe you are, since you picked the 2600X...) I would go with the included AMD CPU fan. As most people comment it gets the job done and, though it may be a bit louder and maybe temps get a bit higher, it will work fine. If you're really planning on overclocking then water cooling could be the way to go. But, if you're a novice pc builder, I would advise you to take it step by step and leave overclocking for later. You also easily save money for a better graphics card:

That being said, I would definitely recommend that you replace the GTX 1660 with an RTX 2060. You can get a Zotac RTX 2060 for ~360$ in Amazon (at the time of writing). It performs much better than the GTX 1660 and it gives you some (modest) future proofing for your build. If you look at reviews of GTX 1660 and even GTX 1660Ti in Youtube you'll see why it's generally a bad idea to get it instead of an RTX 2060, even if you have to spend 100$ more: I think it's well worth it.

Good luck!

  • 14 months ago
  • 0 points

Why motherboard pick b450 not x470? What different

  • 14 months ago
  • 3 points

B450 and X470 are the same when it comes to overclocking, but generally X470 has better VRM's due to the higher price (Not in all cases, some X470 boards are very cheaply built), and the largest difference is that X470 has Multi-GPU support (I.E. Crossfire, SLI) If Multi-GPU is not important and you are not doing extreme overclocking, B450 is an ideal option.

  • 13 months ago
  • 0 points

B450 is enough if not overclocking nor sli/crossfire. I am worry about that though ASRock mb is solid sometimes it only gets so-so RMA policy.

  • 12 months ago
  • 0 points

Sorry I’m new to this but is this pc sent with all the parts in it or would I have to build it

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Marlonn, this is a PC build guide so all the parts here are suggested. Feel free to exchange whatever parts you want. The build guide is pretty good though I would follow it if you're a first time builder. You can buy all the parts yourself on Amazon, or Newegg for example, and then you put the PC together yourself. So to clarify, no, the a PC will not be sent to you all pre assembled. You would have to buy the parts and build it yourself.

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  • 15 months ago
  • 5 points

This will be my first time going to build a pc. Does this build have a guide I can follow? I'm trying to make sure I don't mess this up.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

make sure to read the manual your motherboard comes with

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

The popular PC Youtubers all have build videos you'll find very helpful. It really is a pretty simple process these days!

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

u can simply look up youtube like i did

  • 15 months ago
  • -3 points

If you get very frustrated very easily, like me, you could see if a local PC repair store or boutique is willing to build it for you. They will charge you, but not crazy prices, and if they do the Windows install as well, it should be much better in the long run. I always come across something stupid in the install process and I've had recurring errors with my DIY custom PC, making it even more annoying.

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  • 15 months ago
  • 12 points

Don't forget Jay's Two Cents!

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Team Jay!

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

honestly, Jayz such a chill dude.

  • 15 months ago
  • 7 points

Who's pau?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

They meant Paul. So "Paul's Hardware"

  • 15 months ago
  • 6 points

it was a joke lol

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  • 15 months ago
  • 5 points

So will this build run around 100 frames while streaming R6S and Fortnite ETC?

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

maybe not 100 frames while streaming, but maybe if you are not streaming... you might get closer to like 70 fps

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I have almost the exact same build, just a zen 5 2600 with wraith stealth cooler, different case (Apevia X-Hermes Bl), Team L5 Lite 480Gb ssd, 2TB Seagate barracuda, Zotac RTX 2060 AMP (Twin Fan was sold out but for $20 more I feel i got a better card). I stream and usually get around 100FPS depending on settings in game. I am no PC expert and probably missed out on some good deals or alternatives but I am happy with the way this build came out.

  • 15 months ago
  • 3 points

Wouldn't the Wraith Spire cooler that comes with the 2600x be completely adequate? My thought is that you would surely be choosing between (the 2600 (non x) AND a cooler) OR (the 2600x WITHOUT a cooler)? Wouldn't these get basically the same performance but be cheaper?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

I just did almost this exact build in October. I didn't order the cooler at the time but ordered it in January. The I found the stock one couldn't keep up under max load situations like encoding video. I later noticed that the default fan curve in the bios was not letting the fan spin up 100% so I may have been okay with the stock one after altering the curve But the 212 black is significantly better

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

When you say the 212 black is better, can you expand? How is it better in terms of end user experience please? What happens to the machine if the fan can't keep up, will it crash or are will it automatically throttle back performance?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

It will throttle back performance if it gets to hot, and if that doesn't work it will crash.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

^^^ it starts lowering Voltage and CPU load once it reaches around 80-85C to lower temperatures and if it exceeds that it will force shutdown due to overheating

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

The cooler is quite a bit better, but the CPU isn't much better (X vs non X) if you have a good cooler.

  • 13 months ago
  • -1 points

Get yourself a 1600 for $120 and use the spire cooler on th

  • 14 months ago
  • 3 points

Thank you~! I am 60 years old and building a Gaming System for my son as a Birthday present. I registered here like the person below to say Thank you and let you know you have made an old mans PC build much easier. Be well ThoughtA, John

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

That's fantastic to know! Thank you so much for the kind words, and I hope the PC build turns out great! If you'd like, a Completed Build would be very welcome after it's all finished.

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  • 13 months ago
  • 3 points

I like there being build guides but the choices/filters in this build are not very good for a $1000 build.

My thoughts on this build:

  • ✔ A 2600x is currently the best AMD CPU for gaming, so the CPU choice is good.
  • ✖ Why a different cooler? The stock cooler should be able to handle a mild overclock.
  • ✖ I would change the motherboard filter to exclude ASRock boards (they are usually not very good quality) and allow X470 (although X470 isn't usually cheaper then B450).
  • ✖ The RAM filter should be upped to a 3200Mhz minimum and choose more sensible frequencies above that. Most B450/X470 boards don't support 3000Mhz or 3333Mhz, but some support 3466Mhz (like the one chosen by the motherboard filter).
  • ✖ Why a 1TB SSD? Also, why a filter that chooses a slow SSD? For a gaming PC, a 512GB 660p SSD should do well. It's not super fast, but it's NVMe and doesn't cost a ton.
  • ✖ A Hitachi HDD is not a good buy, they are very loud and most of the ones sold are heavily used and sold as "new". I changed the filter to exclude Hitachi drives.
  • ✔ An RTX 2060 is good for this build, it could be changed to a 2070 but that would require some not-so-good downgrades on the rest of the build to keep it around/under $1000.
  • ✔ There's definitely better cases but I didn't change the one the list had because I liked the cable management.
  • ✖ The PSU filter isn't very good at finding good PSU deals, I changed it to use the cheapest semi/fully modular 80+ Gold PSU that was from a reputable brand.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $179.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard *MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.68 @ Amazon
Memory *OLOy - 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $88.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $61.37 @ Newegg
Storage *Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.90 @ Amazon
Video Card *Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB MINI ITX OC Video Card $345.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply *SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $61.98 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $978.89
Mail-in rebates -$25.00
Total $953.89
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-25 14:36 EDT-0400

$40 cheaper then the build guide but would be a lot better for a mid-range gaming PC.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Was wondering, will a r5 2600 be a good replacement for the 2600x?

  • 15 months ago
  • 4 points

Yes.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, the only difference is 2600X are binned by AMD

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, absolutely. For the minute performance boost, you could (probably) find a better way to spend that $30 difference.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea I guess i might’ve spent it well idk just posted my build with it lol

  • 15 months ago
  • 0 points

Yes, there is no problem running a regular 2600 over the 2600x. You can overclock both as well.

In essence the 2600x is a marginally boosted 2600.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

The 2600 actually OC's better than the X.

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  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

I didn't think that you could have an AMD CPU but also an Intel GPU? Can someone explain please?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Do you mean Nvidia GPU?

Anyhow, any Intel or AMD processor can be used alongside any Nvidia or AMD graphics card.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Whoops yes I meant Nvidia. I don't know why I said Intel xD

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

You can have AMD CPU with Nvidia GPU. CPU's and GPU's aren't locked like that.

You can also have an AMD CPU with an INTEL GPU(but those aren't out yet)

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

you can have whatever CPU with what ever GPU you want with no issues

  • 15 months ago
  • -2 points

I think you’re getting mixed up. Nvidea is not intel

  • 15 months ago
  • 6 points

I think you’re getting mixed up. Nvidea is not Nvidia.

  • 15 months ago
  • 3 points

I know that.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

I just did this build a few months ago. I kept my corsair hx750i psu and msi Rx480 8gb and antec p280 from before though. I managed to get my ryzen 5 2600x for $230 CAD on amazon at the time. It's been really awesome. A huge leap from my i5 4570

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Hoping to get your input. Like you, I plan on keeping my Corsair 650 and my MSI RX 480 8gb from my current PC and build something along these lines (maybe wait for next gen Ryzen CPU, not sure). How's the GPU performance with this build? Anything else you would change in this build? 2700x?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

You're fine with your RX 480 for 1080p-1440p gaming. The 2600X is a good match for it.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

oh damn sorry i didn't see this until now. I don't think the extra cost of the Ryzen 7 is worth it, it doesn't really impact gaming performance significantly and the 6 core 12 thread seems to handle streaming and gaming simultaneously very well. If i were building now i'd maybe go for a R5 3600, but the 2600x's are super cheap right now. I'm on the fence about GPU . i am considering a RX5700 (probably a Saphire Pulse), my current setup is all 1080p so 5700 would be a little overkill but i'd like the option to upgrade to 1440p monitor sometime soon.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Very nice looking compute. I was wondering how this compares performance wise to the Intel version for both gaming and other tasks. From what I have seen, the intel should be slightly better for pure gaming but this amd setup should be a better all rounder, is that true?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

It's true but at the same time it's rare to see it much with a gpu at this level. Also an adaptive sync display will negate most of anything you'd ever notice and is just so worth it. I think the am4 platform is more future proof and you get a more versatile build.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Ryzen has better Motherboard support, and at max i've seen a 5 frame difference (average of 1-3) between intel and AMD, but a noticable cost difference

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Personally I think it's better going for the R5 2600 because the only difference between it and the X model is 200 Mhz of extra base clock and the wraith spire stock cooler instead of the wraith stealth. I don't think it's worth an extra $60 or however much the extra price is. You can over clock it afterwards anyways.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

i've seen the price difference be as low as 20-25 dollars,

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

26 days later it has been seen at a $10 difference lol

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm brand new to the pc world, so I was wondering if I get this build could I hook it up to my 55" 4k tv in my living room and sync an xbox controller and play pc games that way?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Pro4 mobo is garbage. Get msi mortar B450(m) for its vrm, design and bios features. Ssd is trash, Samsung evo 860 is the boardeline, better yet, give 20£ more for a Samsung 970 evo. Ram is okayish for the price.

  • 14 months ago
  • 0 points

assuming you can even get a mortar, and good SSDs for cheaper like the L5 Lite 3D, the WD Blue, and the MX500 exist

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

is this build recomendable and would it be able to play halo mcc with decent Frames?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Good build. But for a few bucks more. Still under 1100 you can build a ryzen 2600x with a rtx 2070. You’ll have less storage because instead of a 980ssd just do a 128 m.2 pcie SSD as a boot drive and a 2TB HDD for storage.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YK6Xw6

If you want to save money just downgrade to a Ryzen 2600. Wont be much but still will be effective. The stock cpu cooler should be fine. But you can get a air cooler for cheap. So no worries there.

  • 14 months ago
  • 4 points

RTX 2070 is one of the worst products on the market right now. 11% faster than the RTX 2060 for over 40% more money. Do not follow this advice.

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm completely new to building PCs, and don't know anything about computing and electronics. My old Macbook is close to death (like, near-unplayable framerate drops on DS3 on 800x600 and lowest settings) and since I rarely need to do stuff on the move anymore I've been thinking about getting a gaming PC rather than a gaming laptop. Better value, more power and more futureproof/upgradable.

This might be a silly question, but would this be able to run Monster Hunter World, Dark Souls 3, F1 2017, Street Fighter V, GTA V and Dota 2 on high settings with good framerates?

Those are the games I'll be playing the most. Aside from this it'll be for work. :)

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

pretty good framerates, at least above 60

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

All of those should easily be 100 fps+ at 1080p Ultra with this build.

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

New to the PC scene, would this be a good beginner build?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, I'd say that this is a really good mid-range beginner build.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

A bit excessive on graphics if you're only running 1080p.

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Great List! But, I recommend at least 3200Mhz ram for Ryzen as it runs better with higher clock speeds

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Should have mentioned I spent hours looking at every component of this Build and researching each as I am learning. When I completed all the comparing and contrasting - this build is truly solid. I began ordering parts yesterday and will post the completed build. Great work on this one, it's simply an excellent value proposition.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

You never posted the completed build. How did it go?

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Hey, I am transitioning from a PS4 to a gaming pc for fortnite, would this build be able to run at 144 frames per second and have obs open while streaming. Thank you so, so much for the build.

  • 14 months ago
  • -3 points

you don't need a whole lot for fortnite, just get an i7-8700K instead of the 2600 and a Z390 motherboard

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Would the GeForce RTX 2060 gaming z be compatible with this setup?

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

yeah

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Please can anyone build PC gaming for me I want to play grand theft auto V and Pubg and fortnight $1100 or less if you can and you can give me two a different option I will check all the comments

Thx

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

As a note for users creating this build: It only has Ethernet support and you would have to opt in for a USB or a PCI solution if you wanted wireless capabilities.

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

could you recommend a better motherboard that has the wifi feature ? nothing too expensive tho

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Kool

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Guys what do you think about this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ngWdZR

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry I know this may be a dumb question but could I swap the 2060 for a 1070?

  • 15 months ago
  • 0 points

The RTX 2060 has a better NVENC encoder for streaming, but if you find a good used deal the GTX 1070 works too

  • 15 months ago
  • 3 points

Or save the money on the GPU, buy a used cheaper card and put the money toward a 2700x and stream with x264.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm planning to buy this build and was wondering if you had any recommendations on a gaming monitor to go with it? I'll be playing Dota2 with this for 95% of the time and was looking to spend around $200-300. (probably 144hz or higher) 24-27''

Thanks for your input (it's going to be my first ever own built computer)

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Look for the msi mag241c, it has 144hz an VA panel, it's curved, has Vesa mount option, built in headphone hanger, an USB hub with a hdmi and dp imput. It also has a 27" version.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

that other link is bad, 300 can get you 1440p w 144hz 1 ms response

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Can me overclock it even more?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

If you wanted to go further you would need a liquid cooler.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Jeez dude, RAM prices have really gotten good lately. Shame I bought my 16gb kit for £120 for a Black Friday "deal".

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I’m a complete beginner and I know nothing about computers. I’ve wanted a pc for a while now and I’ve just started looking for parts. Is this one good and relatively cheap compared to others? Anything is helpful.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Generally speaking, you could certainly build a gaming pc that won't struggle under load for less than this. This PC includes a very powerful, new generation of NVIDEA graphics card which is built around overclocking, which for MOST computing needs would be fairly excessive, and drives the price way up.

With some smart part changes to fit your specific needs, you could build with a similarly powerful CPU, a mid ranged GPU like the RX 570 or 580, etc for about $700-800.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

i'd say the 590, but that's just me.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

That all depends on what you want to do and what games you want to play. This PC is going to be very good at a lot of things, but a more budget PC could be built fairly easily for a couple hundred dollars less. Baseline though, it all depends on what you want to do with it. I'm not exactly an expert, but i'm sure if you have more questions that I can at least point you in the right direction or someone else here with more knowledge can more fully answer your questions.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Will i need to purchase additional fans for this case?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

a fan for the front might be helpful

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

on the list, it says that the rtx 2060 is 143 dollars but when I click on the buy link it takes me to Amazon and its $500!? anybody know what up with that?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

It's probably still technically listed on amazon somewhere, which is a dead page that redirects to an updated one. Also it could take the used&new section into account?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

That's strange. A new RTX 2060 will be priced no where near $143. However, $500 sounds too expensive as well. Right now they go for $300-400

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Just wondering (this is my first time building) does having an Intel or AMD CPU matter?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

imo no

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

AMD CPUs are cheaper, while Intel CPUs have good single core performance

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Not strictly. Some things run better on one or the other just like some things run better on either AMD or Nvidia graphics cards, but those things aren't very common.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Historically AMD has never been able to match the longevity of Intel. That said, the Ryzen series has most long term Intel fans taking a second look... You can get a lot of bang for a much smaller buck with the Ryzen series.

I personally think on the lower end, you're even better off with Ryzen. A core i3 that matches R3 2200G in performance costs at least twice the latter.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

IS a gold 550 watt good enough for a rtx 2070 without overclocking?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

It should be as long as the PSU is good quality.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

thx

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Have you taken a look at the Arctic Freezer 34 Esports CPU coolers? I think they would be a good alternative for the Hyper 212 should an alternative be desired. The dual fan models retail for $40 and perform above their price range in both temperatures and noise while looking attractive in 4 color options.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

That's a great suggestion, thanks!

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Noctua also makes great CPU and Case fans - quiet and effective for the price.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

True they make pretty much the best, but none that compete with either the Hyper 212 series or Arctic Freezer 33/34 in both price and performance at the same time.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

So, I have a Question. How many Frames does this Run 1920x1080 on games such as, Fortnite and Rainbow 6 siege?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

You could achieve 60 FPS on Fortnite with a potato. That said this would be well over 100+

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

welp time to go buy a potato

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

funny because my old potato couldn´t.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

This system should both of those games great at 1080p. I'm guessing here- around 100-150 fps at high/ultra settings.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

enough

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Lol ok thanks. What about the Intel?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

still enough

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

those games aren't super hard to run at ultra, even a 1060 6gb card would be ok

  • 15 months ago
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  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

No, I would suggest a better PSU, like what they suggest

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

What are you smoking? SeaSonic makes great power supplies.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

the Seasonic M12II Bronze series is very outdated and shouldn't be used in a modern build, however modern SeaSonic supplies are good

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

You have any other reasoning besides "it's outdated"? It has all the same connectors.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

it's a 10 year old group regulated PSU, it's not suitable for modern machines

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi i want to build this set up part by part what do you think i should get like a cheaper one part and just upgrade later ex. Instead of getting a 2600x ill just get 2600 .cause im just scared what if i buy that part and the next day the price drops immediately thanks

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

The 2600 is a good alternative to the 2600X

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks but i got the 2600x already. How abou the gpu thinking about getting 580 instead of the 2060 is the 200 really worth it

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

If you're gonna drop down, get the 1660Ti instead

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Is this worth the pay I am a beginner and I was just wondering if this is worth the money.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

this should run most AAA games at 1080p ultra and some games at 1440p

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 14 months ago
  • 0 points

"Some games at 1440p"

The RTX 2060 runs all AAA games at 1440p High-Ultra at 60 fps+

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

not all AAA games, Rise of the Tomb Raider runs 50-55 average.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I just completed this build for the same pourpose, what do you think? Do you'd change something? https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zbq4fH

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

looks gr8 man

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks bro!

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm planning to build this and I was wondering; if I switch out the motherboard, memory, and SSD to a MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4, G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory and ADATA - Ultimate SU800 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive, would I have any problems? Also, would I need case fans? (First time building a pc, friend is helping me build it though). I already bought the case, and I'm very excited!

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Also planning to switch out the CPU Cooler for a Cooler Master - Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

it should be fine, the memory will make your cpu scale better than the 3000mhz ram on this guide

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I would recomment a 1660 gpu instead of a 2060

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

May I ask why?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

probly because it's cheaper i guess

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

you can get the 2060 for a similar price

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

No, you can't.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

It's actually good advice if you're only playing at 1080p.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Would a gtx 1660 ti be worth it then the gtx 1660?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

if your looking at those, get the 1660 ti

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

If you can afford the price difference, go with a 2060. If you need the GPU now, go with the 1660ti over the normal 1660. There's also a website called userbenchmark.com (I think) that allows you to compare 2 different GPUs side by side in different games and benchmarks, all set to 1080p max settings. That site has helped me decide on the GPU for my upcoming build and I can deffinately recommend it to other builders. I would check that site if you have any more questions about GPUs.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey I just bought a week ago the rx 570, I hope it’s what I was looking for because it was 180$,[awesome deal] And went to Ottowa for a trip and bought a b450 plus micro ATX motherboard. And a 650 gold rated psu, and I bought the p300 case. I’m going to wait for the new Ryzen cpu tho, but it’s hard to wait because I want to finish my build before this summer lol. Anyways, thanks for the feedback and later on I will use your advice for future builds.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

No problem. Happy building!

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks a lot. The 13 year old I’m am, I’m really excited to build this pc with my dad, I’ve been waiting so long to do this,I’m trying to make good choice so I don’t mess up everything, i feel bad for my friend who got a 1200$ laptop that has a gtx 1050ti, and if you unplug it, it will crash.

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  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

This seems like an awesome build and I can't wait to build it! However, would it be work switching the build's GPU with this card?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814126284

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

No, if you want a top tier 2060 the MSI Gaming Z is cheaper

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

What’s another comparable choice for memory, the one picked is out of stock on newegg.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey anyone know a good video card replacement I cant seem to find that card anywhere!

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Personal opinion but I don't think the new 2000 series RTX cards are worth it right now. If you're looking to save a bit of money I'd go with a GTX1070, 1080, 1080ti, or or the newer 1660ti. This will give you very similar performance or even better in some scenarios.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

evga black 2060

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, I am new to PcPartPicker, and just discovered this build which is very helpful.

I am planning to use the same motherboard and CPU, but found other memory. The memory you currently have in the build (G.Skill Aegis 16 Gb, F4-3000C16D-16GISB) is not in the list of supported memory for the Asrock B450 Pro 4. Would this be an issue ?

Is there any logic for choosing the proper memory for the motherboard ? (it's really hard to find memory which is actually in QVL list of the motherboard)

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

i don't think there is much compatibility problems with ram will say you might have to change the ram settings in the Bios but other then that it's fine

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build would've gotten a water cooler for streaming while playing, cause that may be a heavy process! Good luck with your streaming!

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

A good enough air cooler would work just as well if not better, the stock cooler would even probably be enough

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

^^^ especially considering Nvidia's new system where you can offload a majority of the load to the GPU

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I would like to use a Freesync monitor... Do you have a recommendation of a comparable Radeon graphics card?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

A Vega 64 is your best bet, but good luck finding one new for a reasonable price

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

^^^ they're usually around 400 dollars which just isn't worth it, along with around double the Watts required

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

nvidia gpus work with freesync now, look up a tutorial on how to make it work as it is different

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

not all of them work that well though D:

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

they work better with freesync 2

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build, very balanced and makes the most out of the budget, especially seeing it features a 3tb hdd and 960gb ssd. With a 144hz monitor for around $200, this could make a great streaming setup.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey guys, can i change the gpu for a Rtx2080 with no problem to the rest of the parts? What could you say are the best Rtx2080 models? I'm building my first pc but i want one of the 2080 models so i don't have to change it in like 4 years. Thanks in advance

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

If you want an RTX 2080, I would go with the Excellent Build Guide

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the reply! Mostly i'm asking because there is a sale in a store where i live and the difference between a 2070 and a 2080 is like a 100 bucks, but i wanted to know if this parts work well with because of the price difference between this build and the excellent build guide

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

There wouldn't be a huge cpu bottleneck

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok then ,i will keep checking some things but i think i will take your advice of going with the excellent build (i had confused it with the highest one) thanks for the help! One last question, is there much difference in the different 2080 models? I find reviews that contradict with other ones and so on. Are the turing ones worth the extra cost?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Turing is the codename for the 16/20 series as a whole

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

You're not going to save any money by futureproofing. You'll spend less money and get more performance by upgrading the GPU down the line.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Would it be good enough for VR?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks man! Was looking for a white now <3

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I put together a build roughly similar to this however my Screen appears to freeze when I stream and have League of Legends playing at the same time. I don't have any other programs running in the background any advice? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cyhXr6 My power supply is the Microcenter (PowerSpec) IPSG 650W 80+ Bronze its not on PCpartpicker list.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Sounds like the stream settings need work.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

If i can get an amd Ryzen 5 1600 for 80$ would it be better value or would it be better to stick with the 2600x?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

for $80 I would go for it and then buy a good cooler to overclock it

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

maybe go for the 2600, as the difference between the 2600x is just clock speed

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

This is just the mid-range build that paul's hardware did in their how to build a gaming pc in 2019 video

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

well it's a good configuration, so great minds think alike, I guess ;)

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I followed this guide but tweaked it, a bit, i'm just wondering if you guys think its good. (my max budget is 2k CDN) https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/n6hngw This is my first build ever, I knew about building PC's for a long time now, and really wanted to build one, but never knew how, until now (I watched A LOT of videos). I'm a console peasant who never experienced real PC gaming, I played on an old IMac but that's crap. I have never in my life seen 30+ frames at, at-least medium settings. Thanks in advance.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

get the trident z rgb 16gb 3200mhz kit it is faster, better looking, and about the same price depending on where you look

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Would not use WiFi if at all possible. Especially with a cheap USB adapter.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

I won't, I updated my build to include a motherboard with WiFi and better everything, but also had to increase my budget, i don't plan on increasing it anymore. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZVT4bX what do you think?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Why motherboard pick b450 not x470? What different

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

The extras X470 provide aren't worth the money in this case

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Why not just use cloud storage for games, etc instead of using local storage. The 1TB should be enough for local no?

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Storage speed can actually affect things like game loading times and such, and besides, what if you don't trust the cloud with all of your personal data

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for your thoughts. Makes sense for games, but I mean the way steam works is all the setup files are on the cloud. Install only the games you need to play locally. Then uninstall. Can't you use a private cloud though in case you don't want it on the public cloud?

  • 14 months ago
  • 0 points

The cloud is just another computer

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Tried to build this today, can’t get it to start up. Fans and lights come on but won’t boot. First time builder but have friend that was helping me that has experience building PCs. He’s thinking it is a bad motherboard, trying not to get discouraged.

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

where did you plug your display cable in

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Probably a loose/forgotten power connection for the motherboard or CPU, or even graphics card.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

That's a pretty good build in a nice case. I just put together a Gaming/Streaming [encoding] build. Here's a list that's close: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Wisestguy/saved/Xt2tgs

If you use StoreMI, you'll get massively better performance from a 256GB nvme than your SSD without any drawbacks. Just be sure to install the OS on the hard drive, not the SSD before you turn on StoreMI.

This motherboard has wifi, and lots of features. The only place it's lacking is memory slots and fan headers. I added a splitter for the exhaust fans and I used only 1 DIMM to allow for future expansion (another 16GB).

The Wraith Prizm cooler is enough for normal use. Overclocking isn't necessary with the 2700x. My single cores boost up to 4.6GHz on their own, and it engages all 16 threads at 3.92GHz when I encode video. Temps stay between 74 and 80C.

In order to almost match your $, I trimmed the GPU by one point (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html) and saved $70. But I was able to improve the CPU (by 2 cores) and SSD (Sata vs nvme).

In fact, my build costs more because of the additional case fans. What additional fans does the Phanteks case need?

Thoughts?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

SSD caching does not offer comparable performance to an actual SSD. The difference between SATA and M.2 is minimal in real world tests.

WiFi is generally unimportant on a motherboard as you should be using ethernet whenever possible. It is a very bad idea to only use one DIMM of memory as you don't get dual channel bandwidth.

No 2700X boosts up to 4.6 GHz. The limit for XFR is around 4.3 GHz.

I do however salute the choice of the Vega 56, even if it falls behind in poorly optimized titles. It's not very good for GPU stream encoding though. You'll be forced to do CPU encoding which sort of nullifies any bonus of the extra 2 CPU cores.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm very new to the PC Building Scene and ask myself if this: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Benja_1223/saved/s7m4qs Is a good build to start. For me (I live in Germany) it will cost around 600€ with buying Windows 10 afterwards. So what do you think I should change or just buy it like it is. I dont know if this is a good or a bad build. My first own build btw. Thanks.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

this would be an okay starter build

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

You can't stream at decent quality with a 2600X at 720p using H.264. NVenc isn't comparable with H.264.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

H.264 isn't one all-compassing quality, hence the qualification of what encoding speed it is comparable to.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Would this build work for a just gaming computer (as in not streaming or recording) or are there optimizations I should remove and add improvements in other areas if I want to use it as a general gaming computer?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

this is a pretty solid gaming computer, just needs slightly faster ram

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I just did this build but made a couple small changes. I dropped the 1TB HDD, and the dedicated graphics. (I'm using it for music production not gaming.) I also added a nvme m.2 pcie. I put it together, powered it up and all I get is fans and lights. No display on the monitors and no POST beeps. I then found out the Ryzen 5 2600x doesn't support onboard graphics so I added a zotac 1050 GPU. Still no display or post beeps. Even if I remove the RAM I get no beep codes. PSU has been tested and is good. So I'm thinking either the motherboard is faulty or when I tried to boot with only onboard graphics is it possible I damaged the CPU? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/perform-these-steps-before-posting-about-post-boot-no-video-problems.1285536/

It sounds like one of your power cables isn't seated fully, or the memory isn't seated. Also, you may not have a speaker to make the "beeps".

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Case comes with one fan. Is there a need for more in the front?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

maybe one in the front, would reccomend nzxt or noctua if you don't want rgb

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Would I be better using a G-Sync or a free sync monitor with this setup?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

gsync

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Nvidia GPUs now work on some Freesync monitors. Freesync would be cheaper than G-Sync.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

This is a good build but for a little over $100 more you can get an X470 board a 650W PSU a better heatsink 2 140mm case fans and a better case. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ybXcD2

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

None of those add performance. Effectively a waste.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the build! I slightly modified it for what's cheapest in my country (https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GPPrbX). Any changes I should make before I order? (slightly worried RAM and motherboard are incompatible) :))

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

case fans?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

get one or two for the front

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Is there anyway I can get RGB for this PC?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

yes with more money

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

some simple rgb fans or memory should light it up enough

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Great build, i also try build my own but i don't know if its good for gaming+working (sketch Up, Adobe soft, game maker, etc).

Build 1

  • Ryzen 5 2600 with Wraith Stealth Cooler
  • MSI X470 Gaming Plus Motherboard
  • Zotac GTX 1660 Ti Twin Fan Graphic Card
  • Kingston Hyper X Fury 3200 MHz 2 x 8GB (16GB) DDR4 RAM
  • Samsung 860 Evo 500gb SSD
  • WD 1TB Bue HDD 7200RPM
  • FSP Hyper K 600W 80 Plus
  • Deepcool Earlkase Case

or

  • Ryzen 5 2600 with Wraith Stealth Cooler
  • MSI X470 Gaming Plus Motherboard
  • Zotac GTX 2070 Graphic Card
  • Kingston Hyper X Fury 3200 MHz 2 x 8GB (16GB) DDR4 RAM
  • XPG SX8200 Pro256GB M.2 NVME SSD
  • WD 1TB Bue HDD 7200RPM
  • FSP Hyper K 600W 80 Plus
  • Deepcool Earlkase Case

My friend said just use B450 then X470, but i research that Ryzen 5 2600 suit better with X470. If i chose Build 1, i should change the SSD to NVME SSD and do i need extra cooling fan? My room temperature can goes to 28 Celsius.

If i chose Build 2, do i need increase the PSU to 750W? since 2070 was power card they said.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

the 2070 will give better performance, but you will need a 650W power supply

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

The 2070 is a waste of money, and honestly you'd be better off with a 2600X and B450 than the 2600 with X470.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

How are the temps/airflow? Only one case fan's gotta keep it semi-warm in there right?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

get more case fans for better temps

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I've built something similar but with peripherals. thoughts??? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hzbNbX

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Curious as to why you choose the 1060. The CPU Cooler here comes within 2-3 degrees C of Liquid Cooler, is extremely well received and is much less. It appears you are concerned with heat, as your fan cont is up there? Samsung had a nice SSD's for $75 with plenty of room.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

2060 has pretty bad price-to-performance, but still a good guide. Thanks for making it!

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

not really, for 350-450 you get very good 1080p, and ok 1440p

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

It's overkill for 1080p in most games.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

thats what i mean by very good.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Just get a 1660 ti then.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I was thinking about getting into streaming and this guide was EXACTLY what I needed. It fits perfectly in my budget aswell! Thank you soooo much for the guide!

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I'd always prefer the 1600 > any 2600 as you can Overclock it to the same Power + it comes with a way cheaper and a better cooler. The 2600 has maybe 3% more power at 20% higher costs.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

What would you suggest i cut down on so i could add a ElGato hd60 pro internal for the same price/max budget of $1000?

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

I would suggest cutting down some lawns for extra money, for the best experience

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

If you see this can you please tell me if all the parts fit together well

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

it will

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Do all the parts fit

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

do my parts look good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p8G9D2

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

get an h100i or h110i, and get a 2060 or a 2070

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I’m looking to build my first gaming PC. I played Xbox for years, I’m currently in college for IT and looking to build either this or the https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/d77Ycf/great-intel-gamingstreaming-build. Can someone please help me decide which one will be better for me?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

The 9600k is better for gaming, but it doesn't have hyperthreading.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

how is this compared to the intel build? i am looking to build first computer

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Can I install an internal Blu-Ray Burner in this tower?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

no

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I put together a similar list, but changed a couple things, regarding the SSD, 1tb is an over kill and some people said that it can crash easily, so I switched it with a Kingston 240gb,(latter on I can upgrade). Just like the ram, I replaced it with a more reliable product.i changed the psu with a cheaper corsair power supply to save some cash just like the cpu cooler and with that Extra cash I upgraded the rtx 2060 in the build, to a rtx 2070. Over all coming to 40$ more, but a better graphics card. I’m not all that good with computers so please don’t think of my has a surpreme god a building computer virtually. But the only thing I’m concerned is with the motherboard. But I know it’s a popular choice. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hy6dRJ

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

get a 650w power supply

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

RTX 2070 is a waste. Only 11% more performance than the 2060. If you game at 1080p you'll never even see a difference.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Actually what about the rx 580? In my country it’s cheaper then the 1060 and it has more vram. I don’t know about the performance though

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I know nothing about computers, at all. Does this run awesome with Rainbow Six Siege and common BR's? I'm really only interested in FPS, and potentially streaming in the future.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

hello! Can you give me advice on this System Build

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/King0725/saved/B4QCbv

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

bleed red

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

So it’s okay to have a 550W psu in this build? Like it won’t blow up?

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

as long as it's a good one, yes

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

hey. as i am pretty happy with the config and the price, two quick questions: a.) could i easily upgrade to 32gb of RAM without an issue and b.) is there anyway to guesstimate the approximate max fps for wow on ultra settings ((in raid preferably)) - as it is my main game to play. thank you in advance - if anyone could help!

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

this will be fine for wow

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

What's a good video to watch for how to install all this. I've never built a full computer. Just changed the graphics card and power source.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

austin evans recently released a new guide

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Bitwit made a good how to guide.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

For gaming and streaming I would of opted for the Ryzen 7 CPU.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Eh. If you are on a budget the 2600X will cut it. But yeah if you have the money lying around the r7 would technically be better...

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I've looked at both versions of this build (Intel and Ryzen), but I don't know which is better. I'm primarily trying to play games like r6, rust, metro exodus, along with other ones that are easier to run than those aforementioned. Ryzen is more affordable, but I dont know if I should prioritize that over intel's quality. I've modified the intel build, which im linking here: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Nikita_Rodov/saved/PZJzYJ should I switch to ryzen?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

look at youtube channels like jayztwocents or pauls hardware, and decide from there

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I thought the price of this was bananas and wasn't sure how you could make a system like this at that price, but then I noticed you didn't include the cost of monitor, keys, and mouse (speakers are nice too). I also tend to include the cost of a legit OS in my builds, especially when I'm building for someone else. I got a dud key one time, and it was annoying and it made me look like a chump; I don't need that when I'm on a job.

  • 13 months ago
  • 0 points

Any respectable streamer/gamers has many peripherals and such. If you're gonna bag on this point perhaps a canned ibuypower system from best buy is more to your liking with generic parts?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Hello, first time builder here. First off, I just wanted to say you're a legend for all the builds you put out. And your explanations alone in the guide really helped me understand what it was I needed or didn't need as a first time builder.

I just had a question (or a few) :

  1. Overclocking. Recommended with this build? If so, what should I overclock it to and what is the best way to overclock?
  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

The 2600X already comes pre overclocked from the factory. If you want you can get the cheaper 2600 and overclock that one to match the 2600X. If you want to OC woth the 2600 I suggest you keep the cooler of this list since the one of the 2600 doesnt really cut overclocks. I suggest to look up guides on youtube on how to overclock.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Does this build need additional software or once I put it together with these parts is it ready to go?

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

You need an operating system

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Lol good setup gonna switch the processor and use it!

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm pretty new, but I have made some edits from what I know but can it play rainbow six siege

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

It could already play rainbow 6, but if you're using a 2070 I would get a 240hz monitor to get the best experience

  • 13 months ago
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Hello, I have some questions . When I check the ram for this build, G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3000C16D-16GISB. It's said that it's only for Intel Platform. Can it also run on AMD platform?

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

yes

  • 13 months ago
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Maybe the Gold Certified PSU isn't necessary especially for me when I'm going to uni that has all my electricity paid for, maybe I'll upgrade after lmao.

  • 13 months ago
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Would this build be fine? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z8tvMZ

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

no, the SSD is too small for games

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm really liking this build, but am wondering if it would benefit from water cooling and if so; what would you recommend?

  • 13 months ago
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Ryzen chips generally stay cool, so water cooling isn't needed (although water cooling is a good idea for a CPU that generates more heat, like an i7-9700k or i9-9900k).

  • 13 months ago
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What you could get without losing much performance is this.... https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/TMH9TW/1000-1080p-build-bundle

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Have you had any type of problems with this motherboard overheating ?

  • 13 months ago
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Hey this build guide is a lot like my build, but I have a ryzen 5 1600 and a watercooler instead. This may be a dumb question, but even then, would the psu wattage be enough? If so, would it be ok for minor future upgrades? Overclocking?

  • 13 months ago
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Just tryna ask, did you overclock your CPU? If so, was your motherboard handling well? Please reply because I am having a super tight budget to create a gaming machine

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

The VRMs on that board probably aren't that good.

  • 13 months ago
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VETERAN BUILDERS PLEASE HELP

I'm building my first PC and would like all type of feedback from my build. Be kind please :) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FY9LGG

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Ditch the Scorpio Black and get an SSD.

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  • 13 months ago
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Honestly, I think that I have a pretty good setup that I'm saving up for in the summer Check it out: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/YoinkTheParts/saved/

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I've heard Asus's VRMs are not that good. Maybe an Aorus Pro would be better.

  • 13 months ago
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Oh btw I already have storage

  • 13 months ago
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I think you can swap out the CPU for the Ryzen 7 2700 8c/16t now that it goes for £155 @ box.co.uk or £161 on Amazon

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

My build is similar but with the 1070. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/breaknuts/saved/2CMdXL

  • 13 months ago
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  • 13 months ago
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Do anyone own that mobo? if so is it good? pros and cons?

  • 12 months ago
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I don't own it, but the VRMs look kind of sketchy.

  • 13 months ago
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Would someone please give me some feedback on my build. This is my first one and want to get the best I can for my budget of 1000$. Thanks in advance

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJ8cw6

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks fine.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Very similar to the build I am planning here https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ubiquichild/saved/2Vscqs.

I think the MSI Tomahawk motherboard is a good choice (I opted for the Wifi/Bluetooth variant in the same family of mobos).

I see that you opted for a Ryzen 5 2600X: do you plan to overclock it? I assume so, but if you're not thinking of overclocking (for instance, I am not) I would suggest the Ryzen 5 2600 instead and I would also stick with the included stock CPU cooler that should do a good job. Maybe it is a bit louder/hotter than a third party cooler, but chances are you won't notice it that much. You can always upgrade later anyway. Water cooling the CPU is a better alternative to the stock CPU cooler if you are serious about overclocking, I think...

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Hello.

I have never built a pc I have never even bothered looking into one in till my pc ate the dirt, I was looking at this build to play Arma 3 and work on photos in photoshop.

I have never spent this much money on a pc so I'm just worried what are some problem could I run into while putting this together ThoughtA

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sfcX8Y <------ better build ~ same price. good build tho

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

definetley should cut down from a ryzen 7 2700 to a ryzen 5 2600. the 2700 is only slightly better for $60 more.

  • 13 months ago
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A new builder here, going to be building my first pc. Does anyone think the 2060 is the right choice if I'm not going to be doing a lot of gaming? Would it be okay to cut down the cost a bit and go with a 1660 or 1660 ti? Thanks.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Depends on what you're planning on using it for.

  • 12 months ago
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yes i would say go for the 1660 or the vega 64

  • 13 months ago
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I know this is random but how is this build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Chaldfont/saved/fJ88YJ

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Good midrange build although I personally would go with a different GPU, if you have the extra funds I would spend it on a RTX 2060 Gaming Z, here's a good benchmarking video comparing the 2 and some others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3IxsXoVimU

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok the thing is that i want to get an AMD GPU because freesync monitors are way cheaper than G sync. so im trying to balance money vs performance.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Then I'd stick with what you have but in my opinion G Sync and Freesync don't really matter until you're spending more money on higher end components and monitors because you won't notice much of a difference with lower end graphics cards and monitors. If you're worried about balancing money and having good performance I'd personally go for a better GPU which will actually affect performance greatly compared to GSync/FreeSync which will not really affect performance, if at all.

  • 11 months ago
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You should check it out, but I believe that you can get Nvida RTX 2XXX GPUs to work with a free-sync monitor. I don't think that was possible with GTX series, but it is with RTX ones.

Anyway, DJcspaz is right in what he says about spending more money in a decent GPU. The irony about free-sync monitors is that most AMD GPUs struggle to deliver 100+ fps in AAA games with high+ video settings. You can of course benefit from free-sync (or g-synch) to get 60 fps, but you'll wonder what's the point of having a 155Hz panel in that case...

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Would this build work for WiiU emulation? I think emulator are CPU heavy. Would an Intel processor work better? The link to the Intel build doesn't work.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

The link isn't working in which way? The link to the CPU's product page on our site or a link to a retailer? If a retailer, which one?

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks, I misread what you said initially. I think you've uncovered a new issue, so thanks for the report!

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Cheers!

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  • 13 months ago
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Do you guys think this build can actually run fortnite at 140 fps or some esports titles like overwatch and league of legends

if you find a part that is not good or i should replace it with another please consider telling me https://pcpartpicker.com/user/jiso1312/saved/KHZRkL

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

The 2060 should chew through most games. Not sure about Fortnite, but esports games should run no problem.

  • 13 months ago
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Would this be a solid pc for around $1,000 or is there any components that could be swapped so it would be worth every penny. I’m not super educated on PCs so I’m just looking for some general guidelines to go off of.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

could probably settle for a 250gb ssd since it will only be running the os. you could also leave out the cpu cooler as the amd cpu already comes with a cooler but if you are looking to overclock then stay with the cooler op has given.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks good

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

That's normal.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

if anyone could comment on my build it's be appreciated greatly

  • 13 months ago
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Hey sorry I’m still a novice at pc building. Could you please explain a little on wattage?? Is lower wattage = better??

I used your build and change things here and there. Thoughts??

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YMLbbX

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Wattage just refers to how much power the component needs to function. Lower wattage doesn't necessarily mean that it's better, although it usually means it runs cooler.

  • 13 months ago
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Let's say I'm not very interested in streaming and I'm only looking for a good build for playing games, would you still recommend this?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

What does a "good build for playing games" mean to you?

It depends on a lot of factors.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm interested in playing newer games coming out, but it does not matter to me for those balls-through-the-walls 4k settings. I'd probably be satisfied with all high settings with 1080p res and 60-70 fps. i don't know of that is asking for too much but that is what I believe I will be content with playing on. games like Battlefront 2, Battlefield V (idk if those are even good though, it sounds like they've gone through controversy) and Anthem, but I think that game turned out to be a flop.. That Seikro: SDT seems like a cool game, I'm just very limited to what I can run and it sucks big time, y'know? Hopefully these "factors" help you determine what might be good in my situation

Thanks .

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Okay with that info we can think about a possible build. So we are assuming you have a 1080p monitor or will be getting one? Also, we are assuming your budget is also sub 1000$/£?

In general, the build above with the 2600x and the 2060 will be exactly what you need for 1080 at high-ish settings. Most of the games you mentioned will definitely be running at more than 60-70fps at 1080p / high settings. If you go Ultra, then maybe around 60fps depending on the title. Medium settings I am sure you can hit 100fps+ no problem.

In general, I would only suggest that you go with the better name brands for the GPU such as EVGA, MSI or Asus. Not saying the Palit one is not good, I would recommend you get it if your budget does not allow it, but depending on what is available near you, consider another brand.

The same goes for the other items such as the HDD and SSD, if the budget allows it, go for the known brands like Samsung, Seagate, etc.

Stick with a B450 mobo and ram that is either 3000 or 3200 speed. (you don't need more, but make sure it is at MINIMUM 3000)

You might also wait a little bit for the new ryzen CPUs to launch (7th July) as the current ones might drop in price slightly.

Overall the 2600x/RTX 2060 combo will be sufficient enough for your needs. It is a great budget option. :)

Let me know what budget you have or ideas and we can either slightly amend this build or do a fresh one.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I do not know my exact budget. If I shot for $1k is I would probably have to do some hardcore saving as I'm still in school, and have sports while working around 16 - 30 hours a week-ish whereas it used to be just 16 hours a week, so I don't have much income coming in, and afraid that by the time I have the money this build idea will be pretty much obsolete.. y'know..?

As for the monitor situation, I can tell you that I have an Asus monitor but I couldn't tell you much about it. I believe it is a 1080p monitor, but not necessarily for gaming, because I think it's a 54 Hz monitor :v

  • 11 months ago
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Ah, I see. Well, in that situation, you could honestly build a budget version for like 650$ and still be able to play the games you mentioned at 1080p at medium settings.

Instead of going the 2600x/ 2060 combo - you can either pick up a Ryzen 1600 or a Ryzen 2600 (cheaper, but it the same ballpark performance) with an AMD RX 580 8GB as many would agree this is the budget 1080p GPU and nothing else.

You can even take the build above and change a few items to bring the budget down a little bit without sacrificing too much performance.

I can even save a bit more with removing the cooler (you can use the stock on the ryzen for a while, even with a slight overclock) and also grab a smaller / cheaper SSD.

You can easily drop this to sub 700$ with tweaking the list a little bit. :)

Also, I would go for the 16GB of RAM. - 8GB is just too little these days, between Windows needing 2GB to run and games 4-5-6 and you are already out of RAM.

Let me know if you want us to try and build a good 650-700$ build. :)

  • 11 months ago
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Also, do you believe that I will need 8 or 16 GB of ram?

  • 13 months ago
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surprised that this build can have a 2600x, RTX 2060 OC, 4TB of total storage, 16GB RAM 3000MHz, & a Gold Certified PSU for under $1k

Awesome Build!

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

HOLA ESTO ES EN DOLORES O EN PESO

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

its in U.S dollars

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

How much of a difference is there from the normal gigabyte oc to the windforce oc?

  • 12 months ago
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i would have to think just clock speed but i would go with Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB DUAL OC Video Card if i was to get a cheap 2060. it's clock speeds are a bit better and $10 cheaper then the other two.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

would this be as good at a bit cheaper price? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LQNCHh i would be grateful for any thoughts thax.

  • 12 months ago
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TdT7QZ Is this build ok? I hope it is.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I think you be better off with some thing like this PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard $104.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $50.98 @ Newegg
Storage Mushkin - PILOT 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $48.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $57.95 @ Amazon
Video Card Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card $299.99 @ Amazon
Case Deepcool - TESSERACT SW RED ATX Mid Tower Case $45.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Rosewill - LEPTON 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $49.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $858.86
Mail-in rebates -$25.00
Total $833.86
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-14 08:49 EDT-0400
  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

here is the benchmarks between the two builds https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCBuilder/Custom/S0-M258318.675909.25612.90523vsS0-M466081.353891.515464.161079.89324?tab=RAM i went with the vega 56 because there is only a 3% difference between it and the 2060 but the vega 56 is around $70 cheaper.

  • 12 months ago
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I don’t know much about PCs but for anyone who does is this good

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Good for what?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Um... This is a good build, but this one has a great price, all the peripherals, and has a ryzen 7 (1rst gen), good motherboard, SSD, better power supply, and a liquid CPU cooler, and a good looking case. Also, if you don't want the peripherals, IT IS CHEAPER!! (-$90)

---> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WKDL3b ---> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m846J8 (WITH OUT PERIPHERALS)

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you for the nicely organized post! One question, could the I upgrade the cpu to the Ryzen 7 without any issues on this build?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

id recommend a better mobo but the rest is pretty decent

  • 12 months ago
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For the price of the cooler you can get a be quiet pure slim

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Who would?

People in US, AU, EU?

Not a helpful question when you leave out the fact that people around the world look at this and neither prices or availability is the same everywhere.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

TO_TOASTY i would cange a few things on your build to look something like this. PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor $169.88 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Deepcool - CAPTAIN 240EX RGB 153.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $77.49 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard $104.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $62.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card $279.99 @ Newegg
Case Deepcool - MATREXX 55 ATX Mid Tower Case $75.98 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $59.90 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $951.01
Mail-in rebates -$30.00
Total $921.01
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-16 01:05 EDT-0400
-I changed the Motherboard to ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 it was cheaper and has built in wifi and Bluetooth and a 2 way sli if you into that kinda thing down the line.
-I changed the ram to the 3200 i thought why not it is the same price as the 3000
-lastly I changed the storage to the Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2 it is cheaper and way faster. but i would add a 2TB or 3TB hhd drive if you have it in the budget.
  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Will this build support 2 or 3monitors and stream at the same time without any problems?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Another very vague question.

But yes, if you meant 3 monitors at 720p to stream games at very low settings at 480p than yes, go for it.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm trying to decide between two builds for gaming/streaming/VR and I would like some outsider opinions. The first is a full size ATX build for better airflow and thus better performance under load and features a Ryzen 7 2700X. The second is a more compact build in the Fractal Design Node 202 (please add this to the website, I had to make it a custom part even though its relatively well known) featuring a Ryzen 5 2600X and a Noctua fan for the CPU for maximum portability. Both have an RTX 2080 and 32 gb of RAM (DDR4-3000). Any recomendations would be much appreciated. Budget is around $1500-$1600. Much thanks! Full ATX build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j6bNdX Node 202 build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BX4BXP

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Edit: I already bought the Ryzen 7 2700X during the AMD 50th promotion so now either build will have a 2700X.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

i would switch the ram to 3200 or 3466, do to 2nd gen Ryzen chips need at less 3200 to run at the peak of their game so i been told.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

so the RAM speed is too much?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

it all depends what you doing with the pc, but for gaming it is just a bit to much. the sweet spot for Ryezen chips is ddr4 3200 speed. to run most games you only need 8 gb of ram so like two modules at 4 gb each would do, but i'll go with 16 gb so two at 8 gb.

That is what i have seen and read any how but each their own.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I guess my thing is I'm trying to future proof for smooth streaming for years down the road so I'm gonna stick with this build.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

A R5 2700X is probably a bottleneck for an RTX 2080. I'm not sure, but you should perhaps do some research. Maybe an RTX 2070 would be more suitable and less expensive.

32 GB of ram is ok if you actually need it: for instance if your are editing large 4k video files. And if that's the case, then I think you should have gotten a Ryzen 7 with more cores, since multi-threading is important for those kinds of tasks.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I got a ryzen 7 2700X

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Funny. The ram, cpu, graphics card, and psu are the same as the collection I put together for a build I want to do. Thats pretty reassuring. I wasnt sure if I was making a wise decision with the part selection.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

This is a great guide. At first I was going to do an Intel system, but I saw this and decided to switch to ryzen. Thanks for the guide!

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

would this be able to run games like Rust and Ark?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Run games on what resolution, at what frames, at what refresh rate?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi, should this be an "upgrade list" for this? or should I aim higher?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $235.87 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard *Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $112.98 @ Amazon Canada
Memory *ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $124.28 @ Amazon Canada
Storage *Western Digital - Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $84.73 @ Canada Computers
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $90.26 @ Canada Computers
Video Card *PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card $288.13 @ Amazon Canada
Case Thermaltake - Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $62.13 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply *Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $112.98 @ Amazon Canada
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link - TL-WN881ND PCIe x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter $28.23 @ Amazon Canada
Custom Keyboard and Mouse Combo Plus Mouse Pad, Gaming Mouse, Mechanical Feel RGB LED 104 Key Gaming Keyboard, Large Gaming Mouse Pad for PC Computer Gaming, S107 Redragon Gaming Essentials $45.18 @ Amazon Canada
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1184.77
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-29 12:28 EDT-0400
  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

RX 580 is pretty much GTX 1060 equivalent.

RTX 2060 is pretty much GTX 1070 Ti equivalent when ray tracing is out of the picture.

The list you've posted is pretty much a downgrade, I suggest you aim higher.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm just commenting to save this build 'cause I have no ideo how to do it differently

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

There is a blue button at the top right corner of the build where it says "Customize This Part List".

If you click that, it will add all current components into a new list and you can use that to save it into your own "saved lists".

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I’m new to PC gaming, so I don’t really know what’s good and what isn’t. Would this be a good starter PC for someone who plans on recording gameplay with OBS?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

It'd be good, but I don't know about starter.

You could get away with a Ryzen 5 1600, a RX 580, and 8GB of RAM, and still get good performance when gaming while recording at the same time. Does well with streaming too.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm looking to build a computer that can run WoW on 4k ultra, but fairly cheaper then this. I've never built a computer before and dunno where to start. Please someone help me out.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that would be near impossible.

MAYBE if you find a used 1080 on a very good price and you already have a 4k monitor, then you might be able to build something to run it at decent frames (not ultra), considering the game is not that taxing.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

This price is varied on the country that we live in right? 1305.60 CAD $???

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

is my pc build good? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RgwHXP im new mostly to some stuff and what av fps would it perform?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Games would perform on 1080p at 60-90FPS at high to max settings.

I highly suggest you get two 4GB sticks over one 8GB stick. (Just search for 2x4GB on PCP) RAM runs much better when you are running it in dual-channel. (Distributes load and makes everything much faster)

Also, if you have an 8GB (or more) USB stick, and access to a computer at home, you could create a USB installer yourself, and buy an activation license for Windows 10 for around $20 USD. (I can't give you a link to resellers because the moderators would delete this comment)

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

You don't need that cooler, the stock one would be fine, and you don't need that fast of RAM. It doesn't really matter for Intel.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Is this a good build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/RCherryy/saved/QYpK4D ? I don’t really understand the compatibility note that it’s leaving. I’m not really sure about how to pick gpu and cpus either.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

It's a great build for 1080p gaming at around 90-144 FPS.

About the compatability notes: - The one with the motherboard M.2 slot is because of your 970 Evo 500GB. SATA ports are another way to connect storage, and generally you have 5 or 6 of them. The note is just saying that the M.2 slot shares bandwidth with a certain SATA port, so it will be disabled while the M.2 is there. I suggest you check the manual so you know which one won't work if you get a SATA SSD or a Hard Drive. - The physical dimensions note is just letting you know that PCP doesn't have the measurements to confirm that they will fit with your cooler, case, etc. But you should be just fine.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you I really appreciate your help!

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I’m new to PCs in general and don’t know anything about them, would any of you guys help me out? I looking for something that could run pubg, call of duty, and CSGO type stuff and be able to stream and record/edit. If you could around $500-800 range if possible.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Kind of a tight budget. I'd look into a 2600, maybe some used 1060s on ebay, and get about 8gb of ram. NOt ideal, but itll get u by.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

so im really new to this so i dont know much ..... but um do i like buy an operating system and if i need to how do i install it or download and what is the best operating system??????

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

If coding is your thing, pick out a Linux operating system (like Ubuntu). Linux is generally free.

If gaming and/or content creation is your thing, Windows 10 is the way to go. Windows generally costs around $90.

Generally an operating system is installed via a USB stick. You can use an app on a computer to install the OS installer files onto some random USB stick laying around in your house. Essentially, a basic operating system is put onto the USB stick that has you install Windows 10 or Linux onto a computer.

You can buy a retail Windows 10 copy which generally comes with a USB stick, but if you want to save money, you can create the USB installer yourself, assuming you have access to a computer, and buy a Windows 10 license for like $20 USD. (I can't send you any links because the moderators will delete my comment.)

I have never seen any retail Linux install discs or USBs, but you can go for that if you want.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

The operating system you need depends on what you need it for. For gaming, Windows 10 Home will work fine. Windows 10 Pro offers more features for businesses. Then, there is Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows Server. You probably don't need these.

For things like Linux, you have many options. There are many different distributors, like Ubuntu or Fedora. These are good for developers and are free. Games on Linux are scarce, but it's worth noting that Steam has an OS called SteamOS, based on Linux.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Trying to build a Budget Gaming PC for around $1000-$1300 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tM3QpG. I already have a 600 Watt power supply thats why I didn't add one. Just wondering if this is decent. Not to sure about the GPU but it has great reviews

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Get an RX 580, it costs around $40 less in your area for an 8GB model. Not only do you get 2 more GB of VRAM, you get the same performance as the GTX 1060. On top of that, you have guaranteed compatability with AMD FreeSync monitors.

Also, I suggest you get the Ryzen 5 2600 over the 2600X. The 2600 is basically an underclocked version of it's "X" counterpart, meaning you can overclock it to get the same performance as the 2600X.

You should also add a 1TB-2TB HDD or hybrid drive, so you have a lot of storage. This shouldn't exceed your budget, especially if you were saving money on the parts above. (Trust me on this, games take up a LOT of storage nowadays.)

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Does the Case have ports for USB 3.0?

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks good

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

This is great build for price/performance, can't get any better than this!

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I am currently planning a sub 1k€ (~1k$) AMD/Nvidia gaming rig. Reading Teohelm's comments and others, I came up with the following build as alternative to the OP's choice: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mXxXKB.

Some notes: I try to stay away from RGB as much as I can. Not a Christmas tree fan: It's completely superfluous and I find it tasteless to be honest... Anyway...

I also love wireless whenever possible, so I went for a motherboard that supports Wifi/Bluetooth, hence the MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC. It's true that you can't beat gigabit ethernet, but a good wifi card coupled with a good router (not very far away from the PC) gives you a pretty decent connection nowadays. The comfort of connecting my bluetooth headphones and just walking around cordless is worth it.

I don't plan to overclock the CPU so I'm counting on the included AMD Ryzen 5 2600 CPU stock cooler to do a decent job. As I've been watching in youtube reviews, overclocking a 2600 or a 2600X gives you a bit more juice, but doesn't seem to be enough for the trouble... Anything below 30% more fps in games is a time waste for me. Even if I don't overclock the CPU, maybe noise levels/temps will be a bit higher than I would get with a non-stock CPU cooler, but I don't care much as I'm used to my gaming laptop's fans screaming at me already. Maybe I'll upgrade later to a better cooler or to water cooling if I'm not pleased.

One question: does anyone know how much of a big deal is a 80+ Gold power supply compared to a 80+ Bronze? I know it gives you better power efficiency, but really, how much do you get out of it? Anyway, I chose a Gold one for this build because I worry about being eco-friendly (and saving on the electricity bill...)

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks good my man!

As you said, there is some difference in efficiency between gold and bronze rated, but both are a good option. If your budget allows it and it is not too much above the bronze varian, go with a gold rated PSU.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

In my opinion, this is better: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KX3qGG .

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

This is better with prices and retailers available to you in your country in your budget / currency. Not the same for everyone else on this website.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

True... However, that applies to any build, prices will always vary depending on location and even local deals... My suggestion is slightly more expensive, but with higher quality parts (in my opinion, at least). In the end, this may save you money, since you will not concern yourself with burnt PSU, faulty parts and other such concerns. It also has a M.2 NVMe drive and a fully modular PSU with 100 watts extra. Still, I appreciate the reply! :)

Edit: In fact, I would say that the worst thing about this recommended build is the PSU... Getting the bare minimum PSU for your needs is a recipe for two things: 1. not being able to expand properly; 2. a shortened life span for the PSU, which may damage other parts in turn, when it dies;

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Bruv just saying but for the MSI website for the RTX 2060 it says that would recomend at least a 500W power supply... So if the Power supply takes 500W and the CPU take 95W then... Bro don't build this PC.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

That's not how that works. That's a recommended total PSU capacity. That isn't the TDP of the card. The TDP of RTX 2060s is about 160W.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Oliver1929/saved/#view=jhRFGX is this a good build? I'm quite new to PC building but I saw that the ram should be 3200 to get the most out of the CPU. Any other recommendations?

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Hi, build looks solid, not bad.

Are you planning to OC the CPU (and maybe the GPU)? Might consider getting a 650W PSU instead of the 550W to give you a little bit of a headroom for better stability and longevity of your components.

Other than that, looks good. Also, it is worth to wait a few more weeks until both the AMD and nVidia refreshes hit the shelves, some prices might come up.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

hey Guys, HOpe all is well! I have a Question can I turn this build to an Hackintosh? Thanks and any advice will be welcomed to have.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't see why not, should be plenty enough to handle the macOS.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

If only this had ryzen 7 and it would be perfect...

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Why?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

maybe im wrong about this, but i would personally go with a 240gb ssd for 25 dollars. Why have a hard drive if you are going to have a 1tb ssd? 240gb is plenty big to run windows and have a few programs on it (i do that with a 120gb ssd and a 1tb hard drive) also why atx for the motherboard? Unless you plan on putting in a bunch of expansion cards micro atx is just fine. the MSI - B450M PRO-VDH is 10 dollars less and has 4 dimm slots as well. what would you practically gain going to an atx board? Atx boards made sense when multi gpu's were popular.

im fine with cheap ram, i know others are not happy about the timings, but 16gb is 16gb and i feel that the fps difference is minimal. (i dont care if it goes from 53 to 55 fps for a kit that is 20 dollars more)

rest of the build would be me nitpicking, but at least with the 85 dollars more you could either upgrade the gpu or you could upgrade the cpu to a r7 2700 and go up to a beefier cooler like a noctua dh-d14 for more aggressive overclocking for about the same money.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

COOL

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

K

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey everyone, I made a much better build that has a much better CPU and better ram (3200) as opposed to (3000). This one is the sweetest spot for a build thats ~920 dollars but will perform great. Cheaper, and better.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Lordfireballz/saved/GKQGcf

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Why you use razen CPU? Why not intel ? I need a good reason please!!!!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

In this specific example? Because this is the AMD build article. If you'd prefer to build an Intel machine, find the equivalent here: https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/d77Ycf/great-intel-gamingstreaming-build

If you're asking why in general someone would use AMD/Ryzen over Intel, there are many, many articles and discussions about that all over the web. One (overly simple) answer would be that Ryzen chips tend to be less expensive for similar performance.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Don’t you need a windows 10 or is it free ?

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Usually you do need Windows (or Linux, etc.) to run it yes.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Fafa

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Drop the 2060 and get a better motherboard, get a 1660 ti instead

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Why lose on GPU performance to "upgrade" the MB that will not gain anything of value?

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

How's this for a good AMD build? Looking at keeping cost down below 1K with tax which I think I've done at about $850 if my list is right. I haven't tried the RX 580 yet but been told it will do good at high resolution with a tweek to AA dialed down a notch. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TfBP29. Looking for constructive feedback. Negative feedback without answers how to make it better are no use to me or anyone else out there. Thanks for reading!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

The list says you have bought pretty much all parts? If you have not yet, see my recommendations below. Two main things:

  1. Motherboard - with that Ryzen, I would suggest to go with at least a b450 chipset as it will have better VRMs and support. You will not be paying a lot more than what you currently have selected.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dQgzK8/asrock-b450m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-pro4 - good budget option that is 10 bucks more and better.

  1. PSU - get a good name brand power supply, 25$ fr a 520W seems like a terrible idea and it will most likely fry your components after which you will most likely regret it. EVGA, Corsair, etc. are all good. Do not cheap out on your PSU!
  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey I'm pretty new to pc building I picked up these parts recently and built this computer with help from a friend who knows more about computers however we ran into a problem that the pc won't start. All the parts look fine no noticeable damage. I was just wondering if anyone would be able to help us.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Heya, sorry to hear that! I'd suggest posting in our Troubleshooting subforum.

  • 15 months ago
  • 0 points

IMHO, I'd drop a RZ 7 1700 in this, the 1700 is $169 on Newegg atm, and its base price is $179 on Newegg. The R5 2600x is less performance for more $, at $199. It's a no brainer.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

The 2600X is faster in single threaded tasks

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Maybe so, but more cores will last longer and many new games are making use of 6+ cores. If AAA gaming isn't someone's thing, then I can see the point.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

If the focus is gaming, the 2600(X) is the best choice

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks

  • 15 months ago
  • 0 points

slightly creeped out at the fact this is almost identical to one of my part lists... https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nr89mq

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Damn, that’s sketchy

  • 15 months ago
  • 0 points

Honestly with this build I think I'd go for a Ryzen 5 1500X to keep it within it's parameters. The 1500X is way cheaper and just about as consistent for this build as the 2600X. If this guide is for a basic gaming set up that'd be my recommendation, the 1500X kicks *** for what it is. If not the 1500X, I recommend the 2700 or the 2700X over the 2600X, easy comparison in my opinion for not-so-different pricing.

  • 15 months ago
  • 4 points

The 1500X only has four cores, so streaming is out of the question, and the 2700(X) are slower in single threaded tasks

  • 14 months ago
  • 0 points

I'm assuming no one likes Vega's then because not one of these builds use them

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Finding one is pretty hard

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

They tend to be overpriced most of the time. Fine to use one if you snag a deal.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Cryptomining has inflated the prices by a lot.

  • 14 months ago
  • 0 points

What do you think of this one? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PQjNMZ Is it good enough to run games on high quality?

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

you need faster memory for ryzen

  • 13 months ago
  • 0 points

great built but buying a monitor and peripherals will cost around 1500$

  • 13 months ago
  • 0 points

paying more for the overclocked version of 2600 lmao

  • 13 months ago
  • 0 points

This GPU does not have dvi port, which some monitors requires to achieve 144hz refresh rate, That port is necessary for competitive gamers as playing on 144hz is real thing, else for casual gamers its perfect.

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Ehm no... Basically all modern Monitors use DisplayPort for 144Hz or even 240Hz.

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

need to not build your own PC is you're using a DVI port only display. Sorry 2005 called and is looking for you...

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

the first monitor in the list of monitors here only supports 144hz through DVI port only. There are several others.

  • 13 months ago
  • 0 points

Well.... after completing the system... guess what... https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100 A very HUGE BUMMER!!!

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm not sure I follow. That article is about 300-series motherboards. This guide uses 400-series motherboards.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

?? bruh 300 series

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

300 series motherboards

  • 12 months ago
  • 0 points

R5 2600x is the same as r5 2600, so why would you buy 2600x, waste of money. A lot of storage though, dont realy sure why you need so much, unless you have a lot crap to install then yeah, but here is nicer looking option https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/XZGbmq

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

These two CPUs are not the same.

  • 11 months ago
  • 0 points

They are the same performance wise, which makes r5 2600x pointless for B and X series motherboards.

  • 11 months ago
  • 0 points

Stay away from ADATA SSD drives. Known to be quite garbage. Never skimp on an SSD unless you like living on the edge.

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

And your substantial research evidence on this statement?

  • 8 months ago
  • 0 points

Every single site that reviews Adata drives.....

  • 11 months ago
  • 0 points

This is the published link for the improved build I made:

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/bVKBD3

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

And based on your link above I need to pay 250$ customs on the Ryzen CPU because I don't live where you do.

This is the case for many people here, don't just post a build here without properly explaining where you might get these parts.

  • 9 months ago
  • 0 points

I can post a build here and tell you to go to micro center, who are you to say “don’t just post a build here”. If you want the computer at a cheaper price, then look for the best deals for the components, that doesn’t have to change the build. But on the market each component has a value-cost rating, and this build is centered around that.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

You are talking out of your ***.

Did you even read what I said? Quoting one part of the senses, taking away from the actual meaning.

You obviously are not aware of how prices, availability and what items are offered work in the EU. All I said was put a note on your comment to say US/Canada related. Why post a build that someone less knelwedable from- for example Sweden, will see and go buy outright when there are better/cheaper alternatives available here.

Also, from your build: "The 2060 is the most cost effective card out on the market" - WRONG xD

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

for new high end the 2060 is, but if your definition of high end is outdated then i see your point.

  • 10 months ago
  • 0 points

nice build

  • 10 months ago
  • 0 points

This build has a severe case of parametricfilter-itis. You use parametric filters and you find cheap **** that breaks in two seconds. You can get much better hardware for just a touch more money that won't break in 5 minutes.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Uneducated comment that does not bring anything to this discussion.

  • 14 months ago
  • -1 points

With how this system is i would recommend switching out the standard SSD with an NVME m.2 drive that is smaller. The price is almost the same and they are significantly faster for boot and for loading programs.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Nope.. NVME SSDs are more expensive and to be honest the performance difference is not really noticable anyway under normal circumstances..

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Using your price for the SSD here is just for example a 480GB NVME Kingston SSD https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242465&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= Read speed 1500 write 900

Here is a 500 GB standard 2.5 samsung sata SSD https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147674&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= read 550 write 500

Both drives are almost the same size, both are close in price, and both major brands not off brand. It is proven as a boot drive that NVME SSD's are significantly quicker and are much faster for launching games. Oh and both drives were less expensive than the one you listed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9OH7Mf6uKk This video goes in to great detail with the comparisons

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Which SSD price of mine are you talking about?

  • 13 months ago
  • -1 points

honestly, why not leave the amd cpu and get an i7 8700k. the k is overclockable, 6 cores 12 thread just like the 2600x. cut the budget down on the graphics card like a 1070, some good thermal paste and a decent cooler and you can overclock high. multi core rendering and single core rendering is 10-20% better than amds 2600x. or even the i7 8600K, which at the moment is going for 56$ on ebay, but normally is around 250-280. 8600k only has 6 threads but performance is still 15% better than the 2600x.

  • 12 months ago
  • 3 points

You're recommending all second hand products.

  • 12 months ago
  • -1 points

2060 garbage. Go for vega 64 at value benefit.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Vega 56 & 64 have really bad power efficiency though.

  • 12 months ago
  • -1 points

If you want to stream do not go with Ryzen.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

You DO realize that Ryzen provided better multi-core and multi-threaded performance per dollar, right? On top of that, Intel's latest 9th generation doesn't even have hyper-threading for the i7, just the i9.

  • 14 months ago
  • -2 points

I have a few issues with this build.

  1. Amazon prices are way too overpriced. You can get much better prices on newegg india.
  2. Where is the PSU.
  3. For the motherboard, its better to pair an X470 Board with Ryzen 2600 and above. its more feature complete and will be better future proof.
  4. The case is too overpriced for the build, you get better ones under 10K.
  5. Newegg has better prices. its cost effective especially for GPU's. i can get a 2070 on newegg for 44000.
  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

This build is optimized for US/EU/AU markets, which explains the part selection, and PCPP doesn't have Newegg India as far as I can tell

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Are you trolling or something because phanteks p300 is the cheapest case that felt premium and you can do better cable management with that case

  • 13 months ago
  • -2 points

This is a terrible build, beware! Terrible components and selection may be pretty looking but it is useless!

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Feedback is very much welcome, but please keep it constructive. For example, what would you like to see different?

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJ8cw6

Please help me with my first build! Thanks a lot!

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Troll? these are great components

  • 13 months ago
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