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Excellent AMD Gaming Build

by manirelli

Description

CPU/CPU Cooler

For the Excellent AMD Gaming Build build we selected the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 as our processor. The stock cooler is more than capable for regular usage as well as minor overclocks.

Motherboard

To allow overclocking on the processor, we set the parametric filters for X470 ATX motherboards that support up to 64GB of DDR4 memory, multiple expansion cards, and crossfire or SLI functionality.

Memory

With our increased budget we selected 16GB of RAM. The parametric filter finds the best price on 16GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications from DDR4-2666 to DDR4-3200. At the current time, using memory rated over 3200mhz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss. AMD is working on releasing additional BIOS updates to add better compatibility for higher frequency memory.

Storage

Using the parametric filters this build will incorporate an SSD with at least 480GB of space and a minimum 2TB of mechanical storage at 7200rpm.

GPU

On a budget of roughly 1250 dollars we decided to go with an excellent graphic card. The Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 TI is one of the single best cards on the market right now. At 1080p or even 1440p you will not have any problems with AAA games and the 1070 TI is perfectly suited for VR gaming as well. When using a 1070 TI you should consider stepping up your monitor to a 120/144hz screen for the best gaming experience.

Case

All of our components are housed in the Corsair Carbide Series 275R. This case has a nice black finish, a large tempered glass side panel window, power supply shroud, room for enthusiast CPU coolers, watercooling radiators, two pre-installed case fans, and front panel USB3.0.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed fully and semi-modular units, all of which are 80+ Gold certified and provide more than enough power for this system while at stock clocks or overclocking.

Click here to see the Intel version of this build guide

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Estimated Wattage: 359W
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  • Chipset: AMD X470
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
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Memory
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  • Speed: DDR4-2666, DDR4-2800, DDR4-2933, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
  • Heat Spreader: Yes
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  • Capacity: 480GB - 12TB
  • Type: SSD
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  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
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Video Card
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  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
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scottandrewj 12 points 18 days ago

I just bought all the components for this build and will give everyone updates!

OneofThree 6 points 14 days ago

im interested in this build, let us know how it goes!

lvjohn2002 2 points 6 days ago

Awesome would like to hear your views on this build I am also thinking of building this pc.

studerino 1 point 9 days ago

So how did it go? Does it work?

SaltAlts 1 point 9 days ago

parts don't ship it 9 days most likely xd I'm sure they will update us soon.

Lebigduck 1 point 4 days ago

What monitor are you using with it?

carson.whitebread 1 point 4 days ago

how is the build?

battman91 1 point 1 day ago

how you getting on? any updates?

DucoD 6 points 1 month ago

Nice build!

BadgerFiend 6 points 1 month ago

Nice build but that RAM is not on the supported memory list which would make me very hesitant to buy considering that these mobo's are so new. Just my 2 cents, mind you.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 18 points 1 month ago

The QVL is only a small subset of compatible memory that the motherboard manufacturer has tested with their board. It is not all-inclusive and using the specs we have on the parametric filter you should not have any issues.

BadgerFiend 1 point 1 month ago

True. This is simply down to my experiences buying RAM that was not on the compatibility list for my Ryzen 1700 B350f Strix build. I couldn't get near the specified 3000MHz on my Team Dark which is currently sitting at 2600. YMMV I guess

Ichi_Oni 2 points 1 month ago

BIOS updates should be able to fix your problem. The AGESA 1.0.0.6 just started rolling out to motherboards a couple of months ago, and there is already a 6a version too.

MonstaComputers 5 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

i've been running team rgb's 3200mhz ram set at 3200 stable with a +1ghz overclock, though anything over that and i get instability issues even though the board itself supports those speeds. It's more an architecture limit than a thermal limit with ryzen.

MikeyBeHappy 1 point 16 days ago

so apparently may have built this. but i have a RAM problem with this exact build (win 10 memory troubleshoot reports "hardware problem", got stuck for couple hours, talked to win 10 person for a while, both believed that it's a RAM problem)... help?

pchardcoreuser 1 Build 1 point 13 days ago

send the RAM to warranty

kriskamweru 4 points 1 month ago

I have one question Considering current market prices, 1080s tend to be about only 50 bucks more. I found the 8GB EVGA OC for example, for 50 more than the 1070Tis Isn't that just the better option?

I'm new to this though, so I don't really know

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 6 points 1 month ago

That is up to you. You can always add more and more to a build. For the excellent guides we tried to target $1250 USD.

Camo5_ 2 points 4 days ago

How come you guys don't take into account cost of OS into the build?

eclecticgore 1 Build 5 points 4 days ago

This is of course a subjective matter, but I would say only peasants pay for the OS.

DGAF_AK87 4 points 1 month ago

I actually second this comment. $50 more on the budget for a better card is very reasonable. Especially with how screwed the market is currently.

PrivatePengu 9 points 1 month ago

I don't second this. The 1070 TI and 1080 are very equal in performance, and you can even overclock the 1070 TI to some degree which makes it within the same range of performance as a stock 1080. Nvidia even told 1070 TI manufacturers to not factory overclock to give the 1080 more popularity. So the 1070 TI is probably good enough for a build at this price.

Sir2Step 2 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

My words exactly.

Avexus02 8 points 29 days ago

you could just y'know... overclock the 1080 so it's not as weak as an overclocked 1070 ti...

colsonyoung 2 points 1 month ago

I'm confused... I'm new to this too. What is better about the 1080? Is it because of the memory? The benchmark speeds are very similar (1080 is a little lower, in fact)

droem 2 points 4 days ago

GTX 1080 is really aimed for mid range 4k gaming and High-end VR gaming while the 1070 Ti is for high-end 1440p gaming and mid-range VR gaming. But both are very close in power.

jason.mcsherry 1 point 1 month ago

http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/compare?hardwareType=gpu

This website allows you to compare 2 cards with one another. A 1070 ti and a 1080 are pretty similar in performance so its pretty much up to you to decide. Im personally in the process of building my own PC and I had the same question. Personally im going to go with the 1080 just because im going for longevity, but its entirely up to you.

jetblast 1 point 23 days ago

The is quite a big difference between the "ti" versions of the cards and the non-ti cards. In very general terms the ti versions use the hardware from the 1080, 1070, etc. and the logic and methods that the Quadro boards use, and that's a lot more efficient in some tasks making them better in some ways. There's a good video on Youtube - Linus Tech Tips - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIOoNuUzFjQ&t=410s

pcp1989 1 Build 0 points 10 days ago

o ya bro if you have another 50 bucks to throw down and can find a 1080 then ya def go for it. but if $1200-1250 is your budget then this a very good build. an ya sure you could cut donw on a few of the parts to squeeze in the 1080 too. honestly though getting a 2nd gen ryzen i wouldnt get anything other then an x470 and that looks to be about bottom dollar for a good board. you could cut out the ssd card to afford that 1080 but i wouldn't do that either. ya sure your game play will be a little bit better but that ssd is gonna give your system an all around nice performance boost that i personally would not compromise on for a few more frames but gaming is about half of my pc life so idk maybe you yourself would be happy with that trade off. all in all though this is a nice build, just wish i could of got something more like this back in february but o well.

Jyrone 0 points 8 days ago

For a $50 difference, I would just go with a 1080. But if you were to buy a 1070Ti and if you overclocked it, you would almost get the performance of a 1080. If a 1080 costs more than $50 more, I wouldn't do it, the performance gain would not be worth the price.

tbice15 3 points 1 month ago

Looking to build something very similar to this. Any advice on monitors with this build that will take advantage of it but not break the bank too bad?

alexsack 1 point 1 month ago

I second this question

AG_PEPPER 2 points 26 days ago

The Dell S2417dg is a 144hz 1440p moniter with G-Sync. It's by far the cheapest option with these three things.

Karokiyu 1 point 26 days ago

That monitor is TN though; even though it's a dell monitor you're still giving up some color prettiness for the refresh rate

TheReclaimerRx7 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

Excellent amd /nvidia build *

lge01 1 Build 6 points 1 month ago

u mean amvidia ;)???

rogdog56 2 points 1 month ago

nice, I love seeing this builds

JP0875 2 points 1 month ago

Would I be able to run any game that I’d like on this build? I’ve never built a pc but I really like this and I’m thinking about jumping I. Also, is there any way to rate the build difficulty of this? Is this okay for a beginner?

Leigh42 8 points 1 month ago

This particular build should play most games currently on the market at Max detail with 100+ fps for 1080p resolution. At 1440p resolution this card should handle (most) any game on the market at Max (or Very High) detail with at least 60 fps. I think it's very much a "sweet spot" build, building something that could really overpower this would require a much larger budget. Conversely, if you tried to save a couple of hundred dollars (say by dropping the graphics card to a 1060), you would basically halve it's capability for only a 15% cost saving. It's biggest limitation is probably it wouldn't cut it for gaming at 4k resolution, but if you're building your first computer I doubt that's you.

As far as building goes, there's nothing especially difficult about this particular build, it's quite standard. Building computers isn't tricky (for a conventional setup like this) if you use a bit of common sense. For the most part the components can only plug into one place, in one orientation. Watch a couple of YT vids and you'll quickly see what the steps are. The most important thing is to remember not to force anything, if something's hard to get in, stop and take stock what you're doing. If you remember that and take your time, it's hard to go too wrong.

JP0875 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks man, this helped a lot.

stefitigar 2 points 1 month ago

Hi, thanks for the build looks awesome! Is there any link you can provide for a tutorial on how to assemble this? Planning to build for the first time this weekend. Thanks!

DezAster 2 points 1 month ago

https://youtu.be/IhX0fOUYd8Q Hopefully I don’t get in trouble for links

stefitigar 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks!

DezAster 1 point 1 month ago

There are tutuorials for beginners on how to build pc on BitWit Kyle’s YouTube, let me find a link

UndeadFox 2 points 1 month ago

are all those the parts u need or do u have to add more stuff cause i been thinking about building a pc but i never got around to fully doing it so im a new to this stuff

Zerenfeir 2 points 1 month ago

I believe your going to need a monitor and an operating system and for the monitor it should be higher than 60hz like what was said in this guides part description. You will need a philips screwdriver for mostly the whole build. Also an anti static wrist strap or anti static mat if you want to be extra careful look online for more info and everything else should come with the package if I’m correct am new to this stuff too and I’m learning this stuff I’m pretty sure someone is going to give a way more professional response than mine. I’m not sure if this comes with wifi so you might need a wifi USB port.

UndeadFox 3 points 1 month ago

thank u for telling me this it was a lot of help

UndeadFox 1 point 1 month ago

will a wifi usb adapter work

Zerenfeir 1 point 1 month ago

Yeah I meant to say that sorry

Barrca 2 points 1 month ago

I am new to building, in fact this would be my first build. Would it be worth it to upgrade to the Ryzen 7 or is there not a huge difference between the two. Also, does this include a cooling system or would I have to work that out for myself.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

It depends what you are going to use the system for. If you have the money, then why not. The ryzen 7 will perform better. I would suggest looking up benchmarks and to judge for yourself. And the CPU already comes with a cooler so you dont need to buy one yourself. This benchmark for example.

Hoodrats 2 points 22 days ago

If I wanted to replace the video card with an equivalent or better from AMD to make use of a Free Sync monitor, what would be the best choice?

Thanks

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 20 days ago

vega 56

click71 1 point 16 days ago

I know you want equivilent or better but Asus's ROG strix RX 580 is a good choice for 1080p 60fps in my opinion. AMD's GPU tend to have higher watt usage than NVIDIA's so having this GPU will definitely give you benefits for cooling.

But like lobster said, Vega 56 or Vega 64 would guarantee you a full advantage of AMD's Freesync technology. Just go with Asus's version, they make the best variants

r8staroflucis 1 point 1 month ago

kewl

ArcticWolf_ 1 point 1 month ago

Wow, thanks for designing my new PC for me XD

SSTRA 1 point 1 month ago

Do you think I could replace the mother board with the ASRock Fatal1ty X370 GAMING X for a second graphics card or would this not really work with the other stuff. Would I need More cooling as well, for the addition of the second graphics card? Also would all this be able to fit inside my current Fractal Design Focus G Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, or do i need a bigger one? sorry for all the questions I am very new to this :P

SSTRA 1 point 1 month ago

I currently have a EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, SeaSonic G Series SSR-550RM 550W ATX12V, AMD RYZEN 5 1600 6-Core 3.2 GHz, and G.SKILL Aegis 8GB, but want to add a another graphics card. Would I have enough power for this and do I have to get the same card? sorry for the essay :P

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

So you already have a system with a 1050 Ti and you wan't to add a second GPU? well that won't work. The 1050 Ti does NOT support SLI. Only Gtx 1070 or higher support SLI. If you want more gaming performance I would advise you to swap out the GPU entirely and add another 8GB of memory.

SSTRA 1 point 1 month ago

I think I might just get a 1080 or a ti and skip the SLI, Thanks though!

PinguOW 1 point 23 days ago

well i have heard you can mess with bios or something to unlock sli not 100% sure tho

macetotheface 1 point 11 days ago

In theory you can, but it won't work on most games as you have to use a "test" version of Windows which doesn't work with games that have anti-cheat stuff. The old adage of buying the strongest single card you can is still the best advice as SLI/Crossfire is becoming less and less supported.

matteow101 -2 points 1 month ago

depends on the graphics card. but anything under a 1080 should be fine. I would get the 1060 6gb. It's a great value and fast, probably the best for gaming under 250$.

SSTRA 1 point 1 month ago

I think I might just skip the motherboard and get more ram and a better single card, thanks though!

BurntToast123 1 point 1 month ago

I am new to this so I need some clarafication. I know that pc's need fans and stuff and it doesnt have a fan on here. will i need to get a fan separatley or does it have a cooling system in the GPU or something. idk i just want to know becuase i am planning to make this.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

The CPU comes with a cooler included and the GPU already has fans on it. Seems like the 275r has already an exhaust and intake fan. So in that case you'll be ok. You don't need to byu additional fans ;)

BurntToast123 1 point 1 month ago

ok thank you.

pchardcoreuser 1 Build -4 points 1 month ago

yeah but the cpu comes with pretty bad cooler so you might update if you got 20-40$ more money?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

no.. the stock cooler from AMD is actually good enough if you run the CPU at stock speeds

lge01 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

You can actually overclock a bit (as in 100 MHz) with the stock cooler. Value for the money FTW :)

pchardcoreuser 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

but if you overclock get better cooler and if you dot overclock then the cooler is fine but still the cooler in the 2600 is downgrade from the 1600 cooler

PinguOW 1 point 11 days ago

yeah. idk why 2600 only has wraith stealth. it runs really hot on that.

click71 1 point 16 days ago

The stock cooler does its job well when you run the cpu without overclocking

bart.rogers 1 point 1 month ago

How does this stack up to the intel gaming rig for roughly the same price?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

probably similar performance.. in gaming the intel will probably pull ahead but in workloads this will probably beat the i5 since it has SMT

Jigs306 1 point 1 month ago

Would a 1070 be a better choice for 1080p on a 144hz monitor?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 3 points 1 month ago

the 1070 Ti is more powerful than a 1070 ;)

Jigs306 1 point 1 month ago

Well yeah but I'm debating on what resolution would be most appropriate. Would the ti consistently stay above 60 fps at 1440p?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

a 1070 Ti? yeah I think so..

_Calvin_ 1 point 1 month ago

would it be alright to go for a 1060 or would I benefit more from the 1070 ti?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

If you are dropping all the way down to a 1060 I would check out our Modest guides instead.

_Calvin_ 1 point 1 month ago

thanks!

hangman522 1 point 1 month ago

How good is this build for streaming?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

I would recommend swapping the 2600 out with a 2700 but otherwise this is really good for streaming

Just_Zino 1 point 1 month ago

I'm new to this things, but where is the power supply ?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

the corsair txm one

thekillingbear@gmail.com 1 point 1 month ago

When you said the stock cooler is more than capable for regular usage. Does that mean if you are doing something like a high level gaming then you would need another cooler?

gdonns17 2 points 1 month ago

No, the creator of this guide is referring more specifically to overclocking - which is irregular and experienced use. Heavy gaming - even at full load - will be fine with the stock cooler, especially because the current optimization of games puts most of the load on the gpu and not the cpu. One of the only exceptions to that rule is Assassin's Creed III, which can still run horribly six years later because it tries to do everything on the cpu and is optimized pretty horribly. However, these components won't even have a problem with that. The ryzen 5 2600 is benchmarked at around 13,000 on passmark, and the cpus that will be bottlenecked by cpu intensive games like ac3 are going to be in the 8,000 - 10,000 range anyway. Of course, that is a little arbitrary as well, since poorly optimized games rely on single core ratings more than overall ratings.

However, the gist is that this system can tackle what you throw at it if you stay within 1080p - 1440p. If you're feeling a little nervous about cooling or are planning to overclock, you can get liquid cooling from corsair and cooler master for somewhere between $50 and $100, depending on your expected need. Even then, a cooler master aftermarket air cooler would be more than sufficient at like $30.

thekillingbear@gmail.com 1 point 1 month ago

I am quite new to PC and stuff like that so i was wondering if i need a case cooler if i overcloaked and could i have put 2 CPU coolers in the same CPU motherboard??

gdonns17 2 points 1 month ago

If you're planning on overclocking, then yeah I would get liquid or aftermarket air cooling. But no, you don't put two on the same cpu, that's impossible since in order for the cooler to work the heat sink needs to cover the entire surface area of the processor, then either spread the heat into cooled liquid inside tubes (usually still cooled by a fan) or spread the heat into a giant heat sink with a fan or two attached to it. That's actually the purpose of thermal paste by the way - which you will have to buy (a tube is like $5) in order to use your aftermarket cooler. The paste, once applied and evenly but thinly spread across the processor, makes sure that the contact between metal to metal is 100%. The crystalline properties of metal make it so that it never is actually "smooth", so it can never by "flat," which it needs to be in this case. If 100% contact between the two isn't met, there can be cooling issues. Look on youtube of how to apply the paste!

gdonns17 2 points 1 month ago

However, I would advise not to get carried away by overclocking, especially if you are a new builder. You can squeeze some extra juice out of processors, but not enough to justify wrecking a processor because you didn't know to go incrementally and stress test for at least 8 hours.

DrModMan 1 point 1 month ago

Hey, im really interested in building this PC because im seriously thinking about a vive set. The only problem is that im super new to it so i have a question, if I buy everything in the part list and it all delivers, is that all i need to build the PC, dont i need certain bolts and screws and tools, and if not, where do i find the certain bolts and screws? also is there a tutorial only of this exact pc building? Thanks for the help whoever replies to me.

gdonns17 6 points 1 month ago

the screws come with the components. Usually the case you buy can give you little pointers. I would advise investing in a static bracelet or mat so you don't shock these components. The stock cooler should come with thermal paste, so don't worry about that for now. First, though, seat the cpu and ram into the motherboard. Then, put on the cooler. Also screw in the standoffs into the case. With the main system fully assembled, lower it into your case and screw in (typically) 8 screws that come with the motherboard / case (you'll definitely have a few extra) into the standoffs. Do NOT screw any screw touching a motherboard tightly. It can bend circuits, and if you strip a screw, you're ****** because you can't as easily drill through the screw like you can in carpentry. Then put in your psu. The manual will probably prefer that you put it in fan facing down. Once that's in, spend a good amount of time connecting the wires but concealing them in the back of the case. Clumps of wires over components can hurt airflow for fans, yes, but mostly it just looks presentable to take the time for cable management. The cables you have to worry about most are the cpu power, the atx power, the power button/leds and the fan connectors to the board. You can't really miss anything because each type of connector can only fit one place. The only time you may be confused is the one-pin power connectors, and in that case just pull up a diagram of that 16-pin connector to see where each one-pin goes. The internal usb headers are pretty easy to figure out. Just pay attention which way you put them in because they only go one way and if you bend the pins, that's on you. You won't get a reimbursement and it's difficult to bend them back with plyers without snapping them off. Once you feel comfortable that all wires are in and cleared sufficiently from sight in a neat manner, you can then seat the gpu and the storage devices. The storage devices, let's do first. They usually have a rack; for hdd, they usually fit inside clips and slide right in. For ssd, there may be a special bracket on the back of the case, or smaller screw holes inside the same clip the hdd fit right into. Either way, you're going to screw in your ssd. If it has a place on the back of the case, your case will probably instruct you to install it before the motherboard. For both ssd and hdd, you need to plug in both the sata connector from the psu, and the sata data transfer cable from the motherboard. It doesn't necessarily matter which satas you use on the motherboard, because you can set the ssd as your boot in the bios, but it is good practice to order your drives in order on the motherboard. Make sure you're using the board's 6gb/s ports; but I'm assuming that the x470 chipset (the one this build's mb is using) won't have 3gb/s anyway. For the gpu, don't be afraid to push it in hard - make sure it's lined up first, but seating a gpu takes more force than a new builder may expect. Don't worry, it's hardy. This gpu will require a vga power cable from your power supply. Same as the other cables. Lastly, you want to make sure you did a good enough job with your cable management to be able to close the backside of the case.

To install windows, you set the boot order in the bios to be usb first (if you're installing from usb) or dvd drive first (if from dvd), but it's more common (and true of this build) to not have a dvd drive at all. It'll boot into the setup software, and you just choose the install path (make it your ssd).

If all goes well, that's it! Now, you just have to install the latest drivers for your graphics card and change a few settings so that documents, programs, and downloads etc are saved to the hdd by default. You can still use the ssd for your priority programs, just be aware that an ssd gets slower the more full it gets. However, I would not save any files on the ssd as their required r/w times are low anyway (assuming you're not writing a 2,000 page novel)

DrModMan 1 point 1 month ago

Alright, wow. Thanks for the detailed explanation I really appreciate it. Do you recommend the intel version of this build, and do both builds support VR?

gdonns17 2 points 1 month ago

Both builds definitely support VR. It's mostly dependent on the GPU and a gtx 1070 can support VR. That this is a gtx 1070ti, it will do it pretty well (It's on the down low for obvious capital reasons but the 1070ti is essentially the 1080 for $50-$100 less).

That said, choosing between the intel or amd versions is entirely up to you. In the intel version, you may notice, an aftermarket 212 evo is used because intel stock coolers usually actually aren't sufficient, whereas amd's stock coolers are. That aftermarket cooler the flagship air cooler and is probably most common. It cools like a beast. However, the processor on the intel build is not unlocked - you cannot overclock it (intel overclockable chips end with the initial 'K') so that cooler is slightly overkill. The amd version, on the other hand, is overclockable - which when you cross that bridge will be useful - so that when there are faster chips in a market of more demanding games in say, 4-5 years, you can squeeze out some juice and get an extra 2 years or so. The upgrade in four years into a $30 air cooler or $50-100 water cooler + overclocked chip is much better than $200 for a brand new chip; and when it really is time for a brand new processor, you would probably be able to keep the aftermarket cooler for the next build.

In terms of power between the two processors on the AMD build and the Intel build, the ryzen 2600 has a single thread rating of ~1900. The intel build has a single thread rating of ~2400. However, the intel build also does not have hyper threading on its cores. It has 6 cores, that is it. The ryzen 2600 has 6 cores, each hyper threaded to make 2 virtual cores (threads). AMD: 1900/ cpu x 12 cpus = 22,800 max multitasking rating. Intel: 2400/ cpu x 6 cpus = 14,400 max multitasking rating. The overall rating of the ryzen 2600 is ~13,000. The overall rating of the i5-8500 is ~12,000. So the ryzen chip is much more powerful for multitasking uses, and effectively slightly better in gaming (depending on the optimization of the game). I got my data from cpubenchmark.net. It is an incredible tool for weighing buying decisions, because it shows you power as well as power/cost, so you can see the investment value. You can even compare chips side by side. Their numbers are arbitrary unless used in comparison to other chips basically.

To put those chips into perspective, though, both the entire ryzen series and the intel 8th gen processor are powerhouses for gaming. An i7-4790k or an i7-7700, both around 11,000 passmark rating are pretty common in gaming rigs, and those processors can handle battlefield 1 at max settings on 1080p/ high on 1440p with the right video card (this build would crush it). I would note, though, that because games are so gpu intensive, they rarely take advantage of more threads, so you won't notice a performance increase in gaming with the ryzen 2600. What you will notice is that everyday use will be much better with the ryzen chip. In an extreme scenario that you have 16 tabs open in chrome, are playing music from spotify, compile a software project in an ide, and are writing a very long text document, the ryzen chip will win. Operating systems run each program on physical threads first before they run multiple processes concurrently on the same thread. So 12 beats 6. But gaming will be the same. The ryzen chip is just better for work / content creation, so streaming a game will be a whiz on that chip.

So it's safe to say, you don't have to worry about vr being an issue with either build. But I would recommend the amd build just because its future is less expensive for you, and even before those upgrades, it's the better, faster, stronger option (+ cheaper in the first place).

gdonns17 2 points 1 month ago

With this build, I would highly advise getting a gsync monitor. With this setup, you're definitely going to crush mid-range games in 1080p - 1440p, and do high-intensive games pretty well, still above 60fps most of the time. For that reason you're not going to see what you're paying for with either screen tearing from vsync (vertical sync) turned off or stutter from vsync turned on. Gsync (the name for nvidia's version of variable screen synchronization - amd freesync won't work because that is for amd cards but is essentially the same thing) will solve that issue for you. Everything will come out at the framerates that your gpu can handle, because gsync monitors only refresh when they get a new, complete frame.

If you don't know what screen tearing is, it's a phenomenon when the monitor and the gpu are out of sync. It can happen when the gpu is slower than the monitor, the gpu is faster than the monitor, or really at any point when one or the other overrides a task in progress by the other. You'll see this visually by a screen refreshing halfway through a gpu frame draw, so the top is newer frames, and the bottom is old frames; it's kind of like the gpu and monitor are fighting each other. Vsync is a graphic setting in games. It limits your framerate to the framerate of the monitor, where it buffers frames, or if your framerate is below the capability of the monitor, multiplies the frames where it repeats them. Both these efforts will cause screen "stutter" or lag. What gsync and freesync do is it transforms a monitor from being static refresh rate into variable refresh rate, like a gpu is - it creates frames faster or slower depending on the load. So by only allowing the screen to refresh when a full frame is ready using gsync or freesync, the monitor essentially "matches" the gpu; they are synchronized, and everything is all and well. There is neither frame buffer or overriding.

DrModMan 1 point 1 month ago

Damn, you give the most in depth answers I've ever been replied with, and for that I thank you.

I'm saving up this summer and about 3 weeks in I should have around 1300$ or something like that. I'm wondering, if I were to order every thing on that part list, would I have everything I need (once it it all delivers) in my room ready to be built or is there extra cables or mini wires needed. Also I've never built a PC and have no experience with it, so do you think it might be better to go with a prebuilt? Because I don't want to spend money on these parts and then end up not even knowing what to do, or worse screwing something up. I understand that buying these parts and building it will save me A TON of money, but I'm just wondering what you think. Also if I were to build this PC (which im really really considering) it wouldn't take like a week to build it right?

Zypher13 1 point 1 month ago

how is it so cheap

underdogg 1 point 1 month ago

Hey bud, because you are using the the a x470 chipset, you could save money using a 256gig SSD and taking advantage of the new storemi that comes with these boards. or even make the extra 16 bucks for something like (Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive) more worth while despite the smaller size.

underdogg 1 point 1 month ago

I forget to mention that StoreMI is a tech that will move frequently used files to the SSD. You would install windows and everything on to the 3tb drive, and then setup StoreMI on the SSD. Store MI is based on tech used in the enterprise and is limited to a 256GIG SSD. However because StoreMI keeps moving things based on how often you use them You never need to worry about cleaning up your SSD to save space.

elsebola 1 point 1 month ago

Damn. Prices sure fell.

Archimedes013 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Sounds like it is a good one

Zerenfeir 1 point 1 month ago

Is everything listed that is needed to build a PC here besides a monitor and an operating system? Is there anything else I might need? Sorry this is my first time I'll ever be using a PC and building one. Laptop guy here.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

Yup!

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

yep :D I any monitor with low response time, high refresh rate and maybe g-sync would be a perfect fit for this build.. just make sure to read enough of reviews

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Zerenfeir 1 point 1 month ago

Is there also any bottleneck in this build?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

There is none :D its a well balanced build

CREEPDEV 1 point 1 month ago

How do you use that font??

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

What font?

PinguOW 1 point 20 days ago

hello creepdev

IshanShah 1 point 1 month ago

How many HDMI ports does this have?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

The videocard has ONE HDMI port. But I recommend using Displayport anyway.

SouthernHemisphere 1 point 1 month ago

How is the Hitachi hard drive so far? I would like to get the 4TB version, but I am clueless by the comments if should on Amazon. I would only go with Amazon to track my order history, but no where else, but what do you think about neweggs tracking service?

ogihcbeew 1 point 1 month ago

Lol you use the exact same storage as all of my builds.

UndeadFox 1 point 1 month ago

are L.E.D included in anything or do i have to buy my owns

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

The motherboard has a bit but if you want RGB fans you need to buy them yourself.

Leleedler 1 point 1 month ago

+1, my only complaint would be the 3tb hard drive, they have fairly low cache and I have heard of some reliability issues.

GameSpeer 1 point 1 month ago

That's a very nice build! My only concern is with the graphics card; why not get the GTX 1080 for just $40 more? And, perhaps you could pick up a different 2x8GB RAM set for a few bucks cheaper.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 27 days ago

Ryzen profits from faster Memory so cheaping out would mean performance loss.. And its always kinda: Why not this its only 40 bucks more. When PCPP does this for every component the budget would be blown.. so its just better to set a limit. And btw, once you OC the 1070 Ti its performance is on par with a 1080

k3y3 1 point 1 month ago

Obviously you have to keep in mind that the cost of monitor, net card, and mouse/keyboard/headphones, plus the aesthetics and other extra expenses can definitely add up.

CoinFlare 1 point 1 month ago

I've read some bad reviews from customers of this PSU, is there a better option for only marginally more money? Looking to build this exact build.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

This one its the new gen of it.. very solid PSU

BOODOG 1 point 29 days ago

Could I potentially stream with this build considering that I will have good internet

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

yes! the ryen 6 core will handle streaming and gaming very well

LostElement 4 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

I would not have chosen that power supply. It's based on a 8 year old OEM model that's group regulated and lacks crucial protections for a modern system. Not a unit I would use. The Bitfenix Whisper 450w is about the same price and is much better performing.

The Carbide series has poor airflow, which can be problematic for high end components. For these components, it's not a big issue.

Other than that, It's not a bad guide.

fiay-19 2 points 11 days ago

Any recommendations for a better case?

snackrat 1 point 17 days ago

Thanks for the warning.

CyberOptek 1 point 27 days ago

Is the 550 enough of a power supply or should I consider moving up to the 650w?

PrivatePengu 2 points 25 days ago

550 is good enough.

CyberOptek 1 point 23 days ago

Thank you

the-doodle-noodle 1 point 27 days ago

nice

hanzhang 1 point 26 days ago

I want to buy a Samsung - C24F390 monitor to match this build. I'm just not sure would it be compatible with the video card ? or can anyone recommend me any monitors? I am looking for a monitor that is not too pricy.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 26 days ago

Both have HDMI so no issues.

hanzhang 1 point 25 days ago

Thanks

UndeadFox 1 point 25 days ago

what monitor should i buy for this setup

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 24 days ago

A 1080p 144Hz monitor is good for this. you could even get 1440p 144Hz if you want

PinguOW 1 point 24 days ago

probs would recommend 1080p 144hz, but if have the money and play less demanding games like overwatch/cs go maybe 1080p 240hz

techguy189 1 point 24 days ago

Don't you use Radeon GPUs in AMD builds. I am doing a AMD build as well an just heard that Radeon GPUs pair better with AMD.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 24 days ago

This is just pure BS. any GPU will do just fine here ;)

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 24 days ago

That is a common myth. You can use Nvidia with AMD and AMD with Intel without issue

PinguOW 1 point 24 days ago

is 550w enough for this? especially if you want to upgrade or overclock

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 24 days ago

Yep!

Fatlooser123 1 point 21 days ago

it says it uses 360 watt so its future proof

PinguOW 1 point 20 days ago

yes but power draw can go way above that under stress, and if you overclock or want to upgrade, you want to have some wattage headroom. Personally I would go for a 650w psu maybe even 750w for this build. 550w would probably be sufficient if you don't plan on upgrading or overclocking though.

paulcjones 1 point 23 days ago

My first gaming PC in a decade. Just pulled the trigger on this - added an entry level Razer keyboard, mouse and headset and a BenQ 27" monitor.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 20 days ago

What refresh rate does the monitor have?

ImLloyd 1 point 22 days ago

This is probably going to be an annoying answer, and I'm not really good at this but, can this stream Fortnite 1080p with ease at 120+fps? I've been going closer and closer to my budget build for a pc but I'm not so sure about parts.

Thank you in advance, still looking for a good build that can handle streaming game's like fortnite on 1080p for as cheap as possible.

Fatlooser123 1 point 21 days ago

in mid resolution yes, but i'm not sure about ultra res.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 20 days ago

just look for benchmarks on youtube ;)

Fatlooser123 1 point 21 days ago

On the AMD website it says that this cpu only support DDR4 2993MHz memery.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 20 days ago

Trust me.. this will run ;)

PinguOW 1 point 20 days ago

thats the max supported memory, because if you get faster ram than that it is considered an overclock. Ryzen benefits from high speed ram.

Fatlooser123 1 point 19 days ago

Good point. haven't thought about this.

Qzkxz 1 point 21 days ago

You can get a 750 watt Corsair PSU from Best Buy for only 10 more dollars. I would recommend!

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 20 days ago

is it fully modular? and what certification?

PC-Nooby 1 point 20 days ago

So I’m completely new to pc gaming like I don’t even have a pc yet, am I able to make this even tho I’ve never built a pc before and would you say this is one of the best builds for its price to run a game like over watch

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 20 days ago

There are a ton of Guides on youtube like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

And this PC would be perfect for overwatch. Ultra settings at 100 fps for sure

PC-Nooby 1 point 19 days ago

Thanks

Deogol 1 point 19 days ago

Hi, thanks for sharing this build. I was hoping to make a new PC, primarily for visual design (Photoshop and Illustrator). Could anyone advise me if this would be ideal for that, and if not what would they edit with the spec to better suit my needs please?

sumrandomguy 1 point 18 days ago

I really really like this build apart from one thing. And yes this will prolly make me sound like a newb but this is why I come to the pros :). Is there anyway to sub out the case to a Full tower ATX and have a case that supports a CD-ROM Drive? My problem is this the computer I have is like 10 years old bought it pre-built from Best Buy and was great for a while but my graphics card is so old as well as the other hardware that I am unable to update just a single piece because the other components wont support it. I play a lot of online games which is why i chose this build to start on I just like to keep things old school and want to keep the CD-ROM drive I currently have. If you would like specs of what I currently have I can provide them. Thank you in advance for any help.

FatMemeGod 1 point 18 days ago

Hey, im new to pc building. Is this pc good for gaming, how much fps do you get. Also are all the parts compatible. I just want to make sure.

macetotheface 1 point 11 days ago

Yes, this is a great build. FPS will vary depending on the games you play. Yes, all the parts are compatible. This site's builder makes it easy as it will spot either potential issues (such as ram clearance with a cooler), or hard issues like incompatibilities.

chadbrochills87 1 point 17 days ago

If I switch out the motherboard for a Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard and the memory for a Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory would I run into any issues with the build? The compatibility looks fine and I don't plan on overclocking. I switched out both parts primarily because I am going for a white/grey color palette. Both the MOBO and Memory look similar in specs to the MOBO and memory for this build.

Dravonik 1 point 16 days ago

Hello! I'm going to have this build as the template for my rig and I'm just curious about if I should purchase a monitor or just use my TV. I would like to save a buck but would I be sacrificing something if I went with theTV instead of the monitor. My TV is a Vizio E550i-B2 with a 120Hz refresh rate and has a resolution of 1080p. Also would purchasing a high-speed HDMI change anything? Thanks, Evan

macetotheface 1 point 11 days ago

Double check the latency on your TV. More often than not, the latency is what makes them difficult to use. A good monitor has <6 ms, where as some TV's are up past 20. You would really feel that input lag in fast paced games like FPS or MOBA's. If what I found is correct, the TV is at 40 ms.

alienc 1 point 16 days ago

What specific workloads will a Ryzen 5 2600 be better at over an Intel i5 8400.

Also any other AMD specific benefits besides maybe StoreMi (ssd like feature on a hdd)

I might do some amateur rendering and blender messing about but nothing serious and honestly time isn't much of an issue.

I guess I am just asking which might also be better at handling more programs open at once or more chrome tabs etc

I will be using steam, discord, chrome and maybe some network monitoring apps in the background as well as of course anti-virus and a bunch of other services like gog galaxy, Skype, wechat, viber, all the instant messaging apps you can think of.

My current pc has 32gb of ddr3 ram, i7 2600, GTX 1050ti low profile, 8TB Seagate archive HDD, 500gb Samsung 850 EVO, 2TB Micron 1100 proprietary psu in a HP 8200 sff case.. and looking to upgrade to a 1080ti and new case hopefully a smaller one but can accommodate a full sized one this time.

It will mainly be a steam, battle net, origin gaming machine and 4k media consumption machine. I'm not much of an editor of any sorts but I want to maybe get into that with a few YouTube videos and maybe start seriously experimenting with game developing of all areas from coding to graphics sometime this year.

Vorticity 1 point 9 days ago

For Multitasking the Ryzen 5 2600 is faster than the i5-8400. The Ryzen 5 2600 is also overclockable while the i5-8400 is not. The Ryzen platform and AM4 socket are supposed to be supported until 2020. At this price point other than a pure gaming build it is hard to argue Intel over AMD due to AMD's superior multi-threaded performance.

alienc 1 point 8 days ago

I mean I love versatility but I think I can live with longer rendering and decompression times since I probably won't be doing all too much.

I need a steam/gaming machine first and foremost.

Something that can help me with running some intensive games like ashes of the singularity, witcher 3, gtav, deus ex you know the usual roundup.

I mean unless it will help things run smoother with multiple programs open like say all the game services you can think of and multiple chat apps along with some browser usage then maybe..

ianatyahoo 1 point 15 days ago

Awesome site and thanks for doing all the hard work. I have a few questions.

  1. Team L5 SSD vs Samsung 860 Evo ? Price is a bit higher on Sammy. I have good experience with Sammy but not familiar with Team L5.

  2. I am building this rig for my son (early teen) and he's wanting a cool flashy color case. Any recommendation for a case between 60-80?

  3. Any recommendations for decent gamin monitor, 25 - 27".? He's mostly playing Overwatch / Fortnite now but probably will get into big boys game in a year or so. What should I look for ? (resolution, refresh rate, nits, ? )

  4. any recommendations for headset w/ mic?

Thanks a bunch

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 15 days ago

I would go with the samsung one. Samsung makes kick *** SSDs.

As for the case the phanteks P350X seems like a very good choice. it costs 70 bucks and has a little bit of RGB lighting :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa3tjSCJY7s Or the Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5 RGB. That one has more RGB and is more "flashy". It has pretty bad airflow tho.. But would work i guess

as for a monitor I would get something like a 1080p / 144Hz monitor. there are a ton of options.. monitor selection is all about reading ton of reviews ;).

And for the headset I can recommend a HyperX cloud II its a bit more expensive at around 100 bucks but the build quality is fantastic. I have it and I can really recommend it. If you have further questions let me know.

ianatyahoo 1 point 13 days ago

Lobsterareawesome - thanks for your reply.

a few more questions

  1. The P350X looks really good. The YouTube videos show lots of cool lights from the fan enclosure. Is that how the cool kids are doing it?

  2. Would I short change myself in the long run if i swap the 1080 Ti for 1060 6GB [https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TrGj4D/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-6gb-gt-ocv1-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-6gt-ocv1] - hoping to bring the total cost down under 1K and use some of that $ for a decent monitor.

  3. What does everyone think as far as the 'life' of this build before it needs another overhaul? 2 , 3, 5 years? if it is 5+ years, i'd say it's a pretty decent investment.

  4. i have two 1TB SATA 3GBs drives that I bought a while ago but was hardly used. Is it worth buying brand new STATA 6GBs drive for this build?

PinguOW 1 point 11 days ago

I'd say about 3-5 years. longer if you upgrade hardware later on.

YahirG. 1 point 15 days ago

really nice build but i was wondering if there is anyone that could look at my pc build and tell me if its good. its my first one and i dont want to mess it up.

Adamus2705 1 point 15 days ago

100th upvote! Also nice build I used some of it in my one (not completed yet)

mcchael 1 point 14 days ago

Would I have to upgrade anything else if I did the ryzen 5 2600x instead of the 2600?

macetotheface 1 point 11 days ago

Not unless you wanted too.

MillerHeavy 1 point 14 days ago

Just purchased a build off this part list. ended up going with a GTX 1080 for the GPU and the ryzen 5 2600x with wraith spiral cooler for CPU and corsair vengeance 2x8GB DDR4-3000 RAM as the memory as this build was out of stock. after taxes and before the 40$ mail in rebate it came out to, $2032.82. This is the most expensive thing I have bought other then my car and should last me 10 years+. Im hoping this was a good investment. I see it as spending big once so I would not have to keep upgrading every 3-4 years.

PinguOW 1 point 11 days ago

Probably won't last you 10 years, probably about 5-7 years. and 3-4 years if you don't upgrade things.

MillerHeavy 1 point 9 days ago

My old build is about 5 years old and can still run most games at high settings with frames around 40-60, its an AMD athlon x4 760k, 8 g ram and a gtx 760. That build cost me about 900 bucks with windows. This new pc is about 2.5 more expensive. If I got 5 years out of this ****** computer I can definitely get close to 10 with the new one.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

10 years thats quite the stretch tbh.. but more than 5 years this shpuld last ya for sure

fiay-19 1 point 11 days ago

Any other cases that would work with this build? (new to pc building)

Stevie-Cakes 1 point 11 days ago

This a great guide. This will be my first time assembling a PC, so this is extremely helpful. But I have a couple of questions:

1) The recommended HDD on this build doesn't have the best reviews on Amazon, so I found one that did: WD Blue 2TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD20EZRZ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013QFRS2S/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Unfortunately, this product won't come up for me on this site, so I am having a hard time determining whether there might be a compatibility issue. In fact, I can't find any Blue Series WD HDD products on this site. Don't know why that is.

Would this HDD work as a good replacement for the Seagate Constellation ES? Would everything be compatible, assuming all other parts are the same?

2) How important are static mats or wrist bands when building a PC? Needed? Recommended? Thoughts on that would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Phantoful 1 point 11 days ago

When people say a gaming pc doesn't cost money

PinguOW 2 points 11 days ago

No one says that

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $94.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $54.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $91.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $34.99 @ B&H
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $43.90 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card $169.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $44.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $29.49 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $605.33
Mail-in rebates -$40.00
Total $565.33
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-16 12:21 EDT-0400

There ya go.. with this 600$ machine you'll still have a better experience than on console..

PinguOW 1 point 11 days ago

My comments: if you want to get ryzen 5 2600, you'll want to get a better aftermarket cooler. The 2600 runs really hot on a Wraith Stealth. If you just want to use the stock cooler, get the 2600x, or even the 1600, which have wraith spire coolers. But if you plan to overclock, get the 2600 and get a better cooler. If you want to save extra money, get a msi b450 tomahawk which will come out soon. It's suitable for a Ryzen 5 and has a bios flash button so you don't need a spare cpu to update bios, which is an awesome feature. I would also recommend getting a 2tb drive instead of a 3tb, as they are a good amount cheaper, and 2tb is more than enough. I would get a different gpu that doesn't use a blower cooler like that 1070 ti and the fe gpus, open air is much better. If you do plan on getting a 1070 or 1070 ti, i would get a 650w or 750w psu, especially if you want to overclock or plan on upgrading later on. This system would run on 550w psu, but if you stress it and/or overclock, you might have some issues. With cases, I recommend getting something you think looks good, has decent airflow, easy cable management, and can fit everything in nicely. You shouldn't replicate this when you build a pc. This is only a guide, and I recommend tweaking some things to suit you.

PinguOW 1 point 11 days ago

here is a build i made that is only a bit more expensive https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NcYGJ8 it uses an estimation of b450 tomahawk pricing. I expect it to be around $100 us It has a better cooler, nicer ram, better gpu (cooling wise), a nicer case, and a 750w psu instead of 550w, which gives way more headroom for upgrading and overclocking

Jbenzaia 1 point 9 days ago

if you used the 2600x for your build, could you then forgo the fan you added as you mentioned above - why 2600 vs 2600x? thanks

Vorticity 1 point 9 days ago

I would look for a case with better air flow especially if you plan on upgrading in the future or plan on overclocking. The Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5 is known for bad airflow if you leave the front panel on and I find it pointless to take it off a otherwise good case. If you like RGB front fans I would recommend the Cooler Master H500P. You can get the Mesh Version or you can get the regular version and order the Mesh Front Panel for cheaper. You also could probably modify the top panel to make it more secure. You could also use many other cases, but the H500P with the Mesh Front Panel upgrade is the route I want to go in my build which is very similar.

Link to my build. A little more expensive, but I am open to opinions. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Vorticity/saved/LMgRGX

Jbenzaia 1 point 2 days ago

thanks! I actually just bought the Phanteks Eclipse P400S in all black - I am super excited about it.

Jbenzaia 1 point 9 days ago

I am very new to building PCs so please excuse me if this is a dumb question - I was looking at this build and thinking I would use the Ryzen 2600x vs the 2600 as it is a bit faster. Any thoughts it is just 20 bucks more basically.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

Yeah.. I would get the 2600X since it is faster and also comes with a better cooler than the 2600

Jbenzaia 1 point 5 days ago

Thank you!

Stevie-Cakes 1 point 8 days ago

If I were to use a G.Skill Ripjaws V Series DDR4-3200 as opposed to the 2666mhz listed above, would I need to make any other modifications to the build? I figure since 3200 is only $5 more at the moment, could look at getting more mhz. Would it be worth it? Would it need anything like additional cooling? And I'm not sure I understand what you mean by DIMM support. Would be grateful for you thoughts.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 8 days ago

You should be fine getting the faster memory.

Stevie-Cakes 1 point 4 days ago

Okay, thanks

LjSpike 1 Build 1 point 7 days ago

I had a look to see if there was any clear way you could squeeze more performance out of this build and/or cut costs on it but there doesn't seem to really be any good way to do that. It's a great part list.

PancakeMcPutin 1 point 7 days ago

Excellent build great if your on a budget but I just personally don't like the way the ram looks but this is a great build 10/10

Jbenzaia 1 point 7 days ago

Any particular reason you are using the Mini Video card vs full size for better cooling? Does the full size still fit nicely in the recommended case?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

fullsize should fit nicely just check the case specs

Jbenzaia 1 point 5 days ago

Thank you!

tasimana 1 point 6 days ago

WOAH imma buy this rn!

Raisin56 1 point 6 days ago

manomanoman my Fx-6350 and RX480 8gb build is looking kinda crap now

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

well the rx480 is still a good card... I would upgrade the CPU in the future tho

PCBuilderNewbie_2.0 1 point 5 days ago

Could I swap out the Ryzen 5 for a Ryzen 7 2700x. Is it possible

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

yes no problem! the motherboard is compatible

rustyesh 1 point 5 days ago

Is 550W enough for decent overclocking both cpu and gpu? (and memory) I've never done ocing.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

I think so.. If you want to be sure then a 650W would do just fine

Stevie-Cakes 1 point 4 days ago

I'm considering getting the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB FTW Ultra Silent gpu as an alternative to the Mini listed in this build, but people say it's pretty big and would take up 3 slots, as opposed to 2. I'm honestly not sure what that means. Would such a card fit in this build?

I'm considering it as an alternative mainly due to the complaints I'm reading on some reviews about the Mini being way too loud, although the reviews seemed pretty mixed on that. Would be grateful for your thoughts.

Thanks in advance

Waites4p2 1 point 3 days ago

Honestly for this price point and in this current gaming market im astonished that this managed to be a 1070 build instead of 1060 and am impressed by it. Good on you

Waites4p2 1 point 3 days ago

Does seem like great minds think aline and theres deffinitly some parts in here id put in my more budget friendly build. Especialy g3 supernova, ived wanted that thing for a few years now

Rudio 1 point 3 days ago

I'm based in UK and consequently, the £359 amazon cost for the video card is before amazon add import taxes of £70-£80. Is there a similar card that someone can recommend available from a UK stockist, at a similar price, or should I just pay the extra for this card in particular?

Khornutz 1 point 3 days ago

I am very new to this. I have s very similar build in mind. I bought this monitor for my Ps4 Pro.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-U28E590D-28-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00YD3DBOC

Will it be good enough to use with this type of build?

Bicboy 1 point 3 days ago

Any reason the price went up

GR8PCs 1 point 2 days ago

This is quite a nice build for the price

Jbenzaia 1 point 2 days ago

Two questions

1) You have the x470 Gaming Pro here but there is also a Gaming Plus that is 20 dollars cheaper and I cannot see ONE difference between the two boards. Can anyone tell me the difference?

2) I can see the memory is now switched from DDRA 3200 to 3000 - was was the reason behind the change?

ZaSeaDog 1 point 2 days ago

I would get a cooler just because overclocking and stuff

PrivatePengu 1 point 1 day ago

It's not a very good idea to overclock the second Ryzen series CPUs, as they offer almost no performance boost. AMD has done greatly in maximizing the default boost.

LouBrierley 1 point 2 days ago

Thanks so much for this. Bought all above components but upgraded the CPU to the Ryzen 7 2700x. All fitted and is now running perfectly.

I brought all my parts from eBuyer (UK) and came with next day delivery. Took my two hours to build and had some issues with installing windows 10 but now very happy with this setup.

I could have only ever dreamed of owning this rig 10 years ago when I first started gaming, and now I do and I absolutely loved it.

If you're thinking about this build, go for it! Easy and incredibly powerful.

With my CPU upgrade and two Acer 144hz monitors my total cost was around £1500.

Any questions from anyone looking into this build but doesn't have much computer experience like myself feel free to drop me a message and I can do my best to help!

Thanks again for this awesome guide.

RoyalSovereign 1 point 4 hours ago

oh wow.... 1070 ti for 450. O.o

XXXneosapianXXX 0 points 1 month ago

Trying to get a build for my gf. If the RAM isnt compatible what would y'all recommend?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

The parametric filter will only show compatible RAM.

XXXneosapianXXX 1 point 1 month ago

Where do i find that ?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

It is already a part of this guide/part list. We only show compatible components.

Parametric filters (like the RAM and storage above) are given a set of specs/filters and then find the best priced components that match and are compatible with the rest of the build.

Fatlooser123 1 point 21 days ago

But it says on AMD's website that it doesn't support 3000MHz

PinguOW 1 point 20 days ago

Ryzen works with 3000mhz ram, it works fine way above that. It is merely considered an overclock if you have it running above 2933mhz

PCplanter 0 points 1 month ago

No heatsink? why?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

Per the CPU section of the guide, we are using the stock cooler.

Memo1010 1 Build 0 points 1 month ago

pssst clicking the link to go to the intel version takes you to the AMD version

droem 0 points 4 days ago

TROLL ALERT!

PrivatePengu 1 point 1 day ago

This was one month ago, it probably was fixed.

puggerplayz 0 points 1 month ago

its pretty good has anyone seen Ninjas build

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

what about ninjas build?

Yuva_Boss 0 points 1 month ago

nice build, but could you make a build with windows included

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 3 points 1 month ago

All you need to do is go to the software section and add the version of Windows that you want.

Darkpriest667 0 points 1 month ago

Yours and every build I see on PC partpicker vastly underestimate GPU price and availability. The GPU you have listed is not only not 499... you can't even get it shipped to you for under 570 dollars.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076S4RH6K/?tag=pcpapi-20

SethWils1231 3 points 1 month ago

just check nvidias website. I got a 1070ti with free shipping for $450 brand new.

gdonns17 0 points 1 month ago

that's because the model you're looking at on amazon is the OC version. The base version is $499. And availability is fine now... most cards are at their original msrp again, within the past few days. They should be below their msrp after a few years of release, yeah, but this card not so much. It came out November 2017

aden1928 0 points 1 month ago

should i wait till black friday to make a build? how much cheaper is a 900 dollar build? consider that the nvidia 1170 is realeasing about july or august

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Black Friday can be cheaper if you are more flexible on components.

SouthernHemisphere 1 point 1 month ago

I'll probably wait if the motherboards and CPU prices go down, but I will eventually by every component I need before then.

dotf1337 -1 points 23 days ago

AMD build with an NVIDIA GPU... hmm

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

whats wrong with that?

droem 1 point 7 days ago

You on crack? I can put in a old Voodoo GPU the 90's for all I care.

NathanPallen -1 points 14 days ago

Downgrade the storage and upgrade cpu?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

no

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 28 days ago

Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

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Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor 8W - 65W
MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard 17W - 70W
G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory 14W - 14W
Kingston - A400 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
KFA2 - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB EX Video Card 45W - 180W
Total: 90W - 359W