I guess I stumped everyone huh?
Ah, I see. My apologies, I read through the description and must have missed it.
Still, very solid build. I think it will perform very strong for a long time. Let us know how the overclocking goes with the h80i cooler.
Nice components, pretty well balanced. I'm wondering why you used the molex to PCI power adapters on your graphics card though? Does the power supply not have enough power cables to power your GPU directly?
Other than that small concern, it looks like a very nice build.
Thanks. Yes, I believe it was about $25. I got it off the NZXT website. http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/100-phantom-window-panel-case-accessory.html
Yeah, we plan to overclock in the future, but due to our budget we couldn't squeeze an aftermarket cooler in. I really wanted to throw the SSD in there more than the cooler, since overclocking right now wouldn't help much.
Thanks for the thumbs up though!
It is enough for the programs and OS we need. We might upgrade in the future, but it's plenty for now.
No, I wish we did. I have been to a Micro Center before and I always buy what I can haha.
The power supply itself isn't bad, it's just that it has a weird coil whine every once in a while. Not terrible, just annoying. I gave it 3 stars because Seasonic power supplies are great quality, so I expected a flawless unit. :P
That's a dual core processor, which for video editing and applications like Adobe software suite, wouldn't be very useful.
I think the i5 is an all around great processor, and we plan to overclock in the future.
It will, the same LGA 1150 socket. In fact, the current H97 and Z97 mobo chipsets are meant to support future Broadwell processors.
In this case, the 4670k has a slight advantage all around over the FX 8320. You can look up benchmarks for both processors where the 4670k comes out on top, save for some multi-threaded applications where they have very similar performance.
Either way, if you're waiting until Christmas to build your computer, it might be a good idea to wait a little longer for the Broadwell processors to come out. Intel has slated their desktop release for Q1 of 2015.
At this budget, you can get the newer Haswell processors for the same price. The processor/mobo combo might be like a $5 to $10 dollar difference.
Late reply, but I got them off of the NZXT website. They sell the LED cables there.
I gotcha. It really depends on which cooler it is. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is pretty big, so it didn't fit in mine, but it might if your cooler is a bit smaller.
I did have it on at one point, but it wouldn't close so I decided to get the window side panel instead. I moved the 200mm fan to the bottom of the case, blowing upward. It's sort of just sitting there, it's not screwed into the bottom.
I agree with your logic here. Next gen consoles will have 8 core processors so it seems to me that games will start using 8 cores. It won't be overnight of course, but that does seem like the direction we're headed in.
Also, benchmarks show the AMD 8 core beating the i5 in some games, so the decision isn't as blatantly obvious as most people like to think. I have a 3570k myself and it's an awesome processor for gaming, but it does feel lacking in some cases. Especially when trying to record gameplay while playing on a PS2 emulator.
The case fans are really quiet, so is the CPU fan. The graphics card fans are relatively quiet under a decent load, but under heavy loads they ramp up quite a bit. At 100% fan speed they are very loud, but I've never had that happen to me under regular use. The GPU fans don't bother me, but for some of those who are sensible to such things it might be too audible.
The drivers are just like any other operating system. You go to AMD's website and download them. There's really a lot of hate on Windows 8 for no reason. I think it's a good choice to try it out. I'd also suggest buying Start is back, definitely worth it.
As for the size of the card, I used to be worried about how heavy it was more than how large it was, but after messing around with it so much, I realized that you can just use the power cables from the PSU to support the weight of the card. All in all, I really enjoyed building this and I love my computer. I could easily recommend these parts to anyone in a heartbeat.
EDIT: I should also mention that Windows 8 does a really good job of downloading the appropriate drivers automatically. I'd still download the graphics card drivers myself though.
Ah, Microcenter, of course. I wanted that board but it never dipped below $180 when I was looking to get it.
Where did you find that board for $145?
Maybe the original owner was a straight girl. Don't be sexist. :P Besides, a girl can get sex wherever there is a willing guy. That won't be difficult to find.
I'm just messing with you man. I was just having a blast spotting all the random stuff you had lying in random places haha.
I would cry tears of blood if I had to sell this rig off for $700.
Ah, I'm regretting getting this board after all the reviews I've read. I was on a really tight budget for him though and as far as feature set this one seemed to be the best bang for buck.
Thanks for the tip though, if it really seems unsuitable I'll just return it.
Good God man, clean your room!
How's that motherboard doing? I just bought parts for a friend's build that looks very similar to this one. The only thing I was iffy about was the motherboard though.
Awesome! I've been wanting this for a while now. Thanks for your continued work Philip! It's greatly appreciated.
I agree with snorlaxyzq, but I also want to point out that you should be getting a good power supply. You'll also want faster RAM than just 1333, probably some rated at 1866. You can get one of those kits for the same as 1600 kits.
The Asus sabertooth is a waste of money, you can get quality boards for cheaper. Try the P8Z77-V LK, that's a pretty nice board and it's cheap. There are other good boards, just depends on what you're looking for exactly with your budget.
To answer your question, moving the CPU from one mobo to another isn't going to damage the CPU in itself. What will damage it is if you don't handle it carefully, bend the pins or touch the contacts etc. If you move it carefully, you should be fine.
I'd just get 8 gigs of RAM and put that extra money into a nice SeaSonic PSU.
You can look at the Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 Ghz Edition, which overclocks like a monster. I have one, but haven't pushed it to its limit yet. If you want a voltage unlocked card, I believe this one is unlocked.
I'm not sure if the Vapor-X is voltage unlocked. I haven't tried changing it yet myself, but I've read people say it is and others say it isn't.
Very nice build. I like the black theme. Internal pictures would be nice!
I think you might have forgotten to put a link? I'm assuming you're talking about this build here?
I would go with this instead. The iGPU is going to be good enough for 720p gaming and you can overclock it if you feel it's not enough. In order to save money, I think it's best to run stock for a while and buy a cooler later. I also left out an optical drive since I don't see the need to buy one at this budget. Also, any peripherals you need should be added on, not sure what you wanted to go with there.
The RAM is on special right now, pretty cheap for 1866 RAM. I'd grab that ASAP if you plan to go with an APU. Before the special expires anyways.
The rest of the build is pretty self explanatory, mainly setting up a base build that can be upgraded later with SSD, dedicated GPU, CPU cooler, etc. The case is optional, but I'd stick with something for less than $40 at this budget.
They're slow as they're only rated for 5400 RPM. I also believe that they only have 16 mb of cache, though I might be wrong on that. Essentially, the reason is, like AwesomeRecover stated, that for the money, there are many better options.
I had a 5400 RPM HDD in my netbook before replacing it with an SSD. The improvement in speed had me s#!tting bricks for days.
I like confusing builds like this. It's like a murder scene and you're trying to figure out what happened with the evidence you've got.
The i5-3570k is going to be the best Intel gaming CPU option. The i7 performs no better than the i5 in gaming.
The only things that benefit from the i7 are processes that can take advantage of the hyperthreading.
The A-Data SSD you chose is one of the fastest 64 gb SSDs out right now, so if all you wanted was a boot drive and nothing more, I think you choose a good SSD for that.
Rumors I've read seem to speculate somewhere between $500 to $800. We'll have to wait and see what happens in these upcoming months.
I was actually thinking about getting the 780. The problem is I'm not sure how much it's going to cost me and how big the performance gap will be between two 7970 GHz and a single 780. Overclocking the cards also has to be considered. I'll do my research when the time comes, but until then a second 7970 GHz seems to be more attainable. I probably won't have enough money for a second 7970 until after June anyways.
Knowing Nvidia, they're probably going to charge an arm and a leg for the 780 too.
Very nice, clean looking build!
I was expecting more white with a build named Stormtrooper though! :P
Haha, great answer.
Thanks! It's been great honestly. The only troubles I've had so far are with AMD beta drivers. The 13.1 beta drivers a while back had some audio issues, but I was able to change a value in the registry as a workaround.
The latest 13.2 and 13.3 beta drivers do this weird thing where the screen randomly seems to twitch almost, it's hard to explain. It happens VERY rarely though, but sometimes it surprises me a bit. Other than that, I'm really happy with it.
I definitely intend to overclock both GPUs once they're in - and to their limits at that! I'm glad I went with the 850 watts myself, since I wasn't really too sure back when I first bought it haha.
Thanks! I actually decided to go with an 850 watt because AMD suggests 800 watts for CrossFire. I know they usually over-estimate it, but I wasn't all that well educated when I bought all my components the first time around and I wanted to put in a lot of fans and lights too.
I wasn't really sure how overclocking affected the wattage consumption either, but like you said, it's better to have more than needed than not having enough haha.
Thanks! The GPU support is a great DIY project, bahaha.
Thanks! You caught that huh? I used to play back in the day, that tin serves as my tool box now heh heh.
Bahaha, I should patent the design or something. :P
Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it!
Now that you mention it, I haven't exactly tested it for specific benchmarks. I can say that it runs all my games at max settings without a problem. I play my games at 1080p though, since I use my TV as a monitor.
Tomb Raider runs at ultimate settings (with the TressFX hair effect) at a full 60 FPS, almost never dipping below that even in intense scenes.
Assassin's Creed III runs over 60 FPS as well, though sometimes in towns and the thick forest it dips in FPS with the Environment settings at max.
Those are the only two games that really push the card. Other games play easily without a beat of sweat. I don't really play that many FPS games, so I don't know how things like Crysis 3, COD, Battlefield etc. run on it, but I wouldn't doubt its ability to run them all on ultra settings with playable FPS.
This computer is mostly for gaming, though I do just about everything on it. It's my main computer. Anything from watching episodes of a series to web browsing to heavy gaming, watching movies, video editing, mixing music, school work... I mean pretty much anything anyone could do on a computer haha.
Thank you, I really appreciate that!
You know that's actually a good idea. I wanted to get the PowerColor Power Jack, but that only reaches up to 6 inches in height and my GPU is 8 inches high. I'll definitely spray paint it though, that wouldn't take more than a couple of minutes.
I'll update the pictures once I get that H80i in there. Thanks again for your feedback!
Yeah, but by no means is this a bad build. It's always good to remember there's always room for improvement. You still did a nice job here.
Oh yeah the NZXT FS fans are amazing. I can hear my heartbeat over these things. The pictures don't do my build justice, since when I built it, I was still pretty inexperienced with everything.
I am in the process of upgrading a few parts here and there and I keep meaning to update the pictures but it always slips my mind. Anyways, I'm not sure what other alternatives you could look at for 200mm fans, but the NZXT ones are great. Make sure they're the FS though, I think the other ones are FB or something and they are a bit louder - though they do spin faster as well.
Haha, well honestly I don't consider MIRs to be dependable anyways. It's more of a gamble from my point of view.
At least the Pound still holds more influence over the dollar! :P