What the heck is a sintetic? You keep saying something about it. Do you mean synthetic?
Dude you were the one initially spreading false information to OP. What would’ve happened if he took your advice and bought those parts? He most likely would have even seen an drop in FPS depending on how bad his current CPU is. You won’t hear the end of it until you get it in your head that dedicated GPU’s are better the integrated. And that is a fact.
Correction: The 950 is MUCH better. There’s no contest between the Vega 11 and 950.
That’s according to synthetic benchmarks that the 650 Ti is better. And it barely is. I found the Vega 11 on an ordered list of performance and found the first dedicated GPU above it. That’s how I found the 650 Ti. Also, I was trying to make a point. The 650 Ti is a decade-old piece of garbage, but it still performs along side an APU that is literally months old. The APU graphics are trash. The GTX 950 is way better. End of story.
Haha, it’s cool. I thought Ryzen APU’s were way more powerful as well when I first learned about them. And yes, I agree he needs a new PC in general. However, he requested to keep his GPU, so I will make a part list matching his desires.
You are 100% correct about the CPU, it is WAY better, but you are 100% false about the GPU. The GTX 950 absolutely crushes the Vega 11 iGPU in performance. Don’t put so much faith in integrated graphics.
Even the 650-Ti which is 2 generations older than the 950, is better than the newest iGPU.
Ryzen APU’s are either for those who have such a small budget that they can’t even afford a GPU, or those who don’t even need a GPU in the first place, like if it’s an office build or something.
No problem! This website is one of my favorites.
I agree with this list and description.
I’m going to assume you are referring to Retro_R’s part list.
The error message is shown because the CPU is a 3rd gen Ryzen and the motherboard is a B450, which were designed for 1st and 2nd gen Ryzen chips. The board he selected has already had its BIOS settings updated to support Ryzen 3000 series CPU’s. Just ignore the error message.
No, it is not. Those two parts alone will cost you $830. Then you have to account for Windows making it $930 leaving you with $70 for the rest of your parts. Which is flat-out impossible. Also, I never said I endorsed the idea of an 8700k in the first place. Your original plan for a 3600 with an rx 5700 is about the best you’re gonna get with a $1000 budget. The 5700 has the same performance and sometimes better than the 2060 Super anyways. For $50 less too!
I play on a 1080p60 monitor. Sure it doesn’t look nearly as sharp as a 4K monitor, but if my 1080p was 144hz (which it will be soon), I wouldn’t even bother to ponder the thought of getting 4K. Higher res pales in comparison to higher refresh rate. It’s a beautiful thing, so indulge in it. Also, 1440p still looks gorgeous. Everything is sharp as can be. So don’t you worry about sacrificing sharpness of images!
No problem! I’m happy to help. The philosophy I stand by is that your GPU should always cost more than your CPU. If it doesn’t, then you’re doing something wrong.
8700k: $430 on Amazon right now
1060: $140-$269 on Amazon depending on the models.
See the difference?
I agree with Miku_Hatsune. 1440p 144hz is the way to go. 4K looks amazing, but you won’t ever want to go back once you experience 144hz.
Obviously you understand that I don’t mean you CAN’T pair one, but a 1060 is a low-mid tier GPU. The 8700k is a high tier CPU. I would suggest at least a 2060 Super. If you get anything worse than that, there’s no point to getting a cpu that good. Again, this is just my logic. It’s not a requirement. You could pair a 3950x with a 1050 Ti if you wanted to. It just wouldn’t be smart.
Whoever is telling you to get a GTX 1060 is an idiot. That card is the AMD equivalent of an RX 580, which the 5700 absolutely crushes in performance. And they want you to pair it with an 8700k?? Yeah, good on you for coming to this website and not listening to them.
Absolutely. The 2080 Super will definitely serve you well at 4K. The Ryzen 7 3700x can easily handle that card.
To be able to run 144 FPS on 4K must be extremely difficult for a PC. Which is why I suggested the 2080 Ti. Best GPU for the highest res and refresh rate. I now know because of your other reply that it’s quite difficult to achieve even 60 FPS.
That’s a fat bruh moment. This is why I’m so against 4K gaming. You have to buy a 2080 Ti just to get 60 FPS on ultra?? Like what kind of a deal is that? And then you have people with 4k144hz monitors thinking they can even fathom a PC capable of running crap that high... I just don’t get it.
I don’t personally agree with this. You DEFINITELY need a 2080 Ti for 4K144, but I don’t know about 4K60. Seems a little overkill, especially for someone who specifically said they wanted it as cheap as possible.
PCPartPicker Part List
This build is perfect for 4K60. Some settings may need to be adjusted in a few games, buts it’s worth it to be able to save $400 on going up another tier in performance. On some of the most graphically intensive games, the 2070 Super shows an average FPS of high 50’s to low 60’s. So don’t you worry about performance. I did include a liquid cooler so you can overclock the CPU to your hearts content. Trust me, it’s worth it.
Oh sorry, I forgot about the ATX request. ATX usually ends up being more expensive which is why I went with mATX so I could fit your budget.
There you go.
Wow. Besides the PSU, looks like I matched every one of your desires on accident! That’s funny. I’ll edit the list to make it a gold PSU.
You didn’t give us hardly any details, so we won’t be able to make a parts list consisting of everything you desire. Please edit your post and provide more detail. Like do you need windows? How much storage will you need? Why do you need RTX in the first place?
I have the Ryzen 3 1200. I overclock it to 4.0 GHz and it has never gone above 62° C. This thing is a dang ice cube. The stock cooler will do just fine.
Ok well in that case, don’t get the 2080ti; the value is garbage. It’s not worth the extra $500 for the performance gain.
I support this idea. I’m always in favor of a high-tier CPU paired with a max-tier GPU because it’s a good way to boost performance. While a change in the CPU does affect gaming performance, it doesn’t usually affect it as much as a change in a GPU.
I know! Before I found out I needed to get a budged build, this is the case I really wanted. That RGB on the front would look so good in the dark. And with iCUE too? That would be so great.
This should easily satisfy all your needs. Ryzen is the king when it comes to rendering tasks and other workloads.
Nice case ;)
I’m sorry. The way you worded the earlier comment that said you have never built one before made it sound like you were new to the field. I meant no disrespect.
Throughout this entire post, I’ve seen people say the exact same thing: “BUILD YOUR OWN”. But you are so stuck on the warranty of this prebuilt. I’m telling you man, building a PC is not that hard. I learned a ton from the people on this website. That’s what the forum section is for. There are plenty of friendly faces who will guide you through the whole process and save you at least like $200. Trust me, I just built my first PC. It was quite simple. Learn the basics, learn what to avoid, and you’ll be good to go.
Aorus-themed because Aorus is sexy lol. In all seriousness, there’s nothing that can stop this beast of a build.
He just told you. Build your own. You’ll get the same performance for a lower cost.
I know he didn’t specify it, but I always put it in there just in case. It doesn’t seem like he has a PC already, and if this is true, he has no way to transfer windows to this PC.
Windows? Also, with that money, you could build a PC with an actual graphics card. Check out my build, for example. When you add windows, it’s almost the same price.
So... they ARE legit. Cool! I actually did look this up already, but I didn’t know if there was some way I could rearrange cables or if there was a certain header for the RGB that I missed.
so i’m not really on a budget here
so i’m not really on a budget here
Does this mean you don’t know what to spend want yet? Or that you’re willing to spend as much as you need to?
i’d like some suggestions on what to get to build a gaming and possibly streaming pc.
i’d like some suggestions on what to get to build a gaming and possibly streaming pc.
I’m assuming you mean a pc that can both game and stream. In that case, I can get started on a list. But first, I need to know what games you’ll be playing and what resolution do you want to play at (1080p, 1440p, 4K, etc.).
I’m only here because I was stalking the mod, ThoughtA, and reading all his recent comments lol. He removed a thread on here, so that’s how I found this. I didn’t do it in a creepy way, just trying to get a sense of what mods do on this site.
Keep in mind that since you’re upgrading from Xbox, you need to purchase windows, which is an extra $100.
Dude seriously. I get that this is the “off topic” forum, but do people honestly think a politics discussion is gonna go anywhere? Do people think it’s going to change someone’s mind on anything?
I did not word that correctly, my apologies. I didn’t mean that mods are unhappy about it, I meant that you guys will comment about it and let them know that it’s not an appropriate thing to do and is not allowed. I was just trying to warn him that a mod will, just as you did, remove that part of the comment.
I would strongly recommend editing this comment out now before you get yelled at by the mods. They very much do not like people advertising windows for cheaper prices. Still not completely sure about the rules on that, however.
Very true! On my crappy old laptop (still hooked on the fact that I actually have a PC now lol), I couldn’t watch streamers because 1) the connectivity on the laptop sucked and 2) the integrated graphics just weren’t strong enough to load 900p. As soon as I found a streamer on 720p, it was... better... I guess. Still stuttering, but I could ignore it.
Hmm... strange. I’ll ask my friend specifically what he plugged in to fix the problem.
Ninja edit: He responded very quickly. He said that he didn’t plug in the second power cable on the GPU because there were two for him. Even though he only plugged in one, the GPU still powered on. I guess you need both for the GPU to actually produce an image.
My friend had a similar problem. It was fixed when he looked inside his system and found a small cord he forgot to plug in. I will give you some things to try that might fix it.
As I said above, check to make sure EVERY part is properly plugged in and there are no dangling cables that look like they should be plugged in to something (And yes, I’m aware you don’t need every cable in your build. I certainly didn’t.)
Look inside and see if any parts don’t seem to be active at all. It may be a defective part.
I know this is obvious, but make sure the HDMI source is on the same number as the port that the cord is plugged in. Sometimes I make that silly mistake.
Try using a DisplayPort or DVI cord. Maybe the HDMI port on your GPU and/or is not working.
I have a friend that just build his new PC (3700x... 5700 XT... the works) and he said he’s eventually gonna get a liquid cooler. When he does, he said he can give me his old Wraith Prism cooler that came with his 3700x. I will be all set for cooling!
Sorry, I forgot to mention something about that. I'm gonna be getting the AOC 1080p 144hz VA 1ms (I doubt it's actually 1ms) for my birthday that I can use for sveral years. Also, wow, you are the first person I've met who hasn't griped about my cheap power supply. Thank you for that! The Ryzen 3 1200 overclocks to 3.8 just fine without any issues of power. I will get an 80+ gold PSU eventually, so don't worry about that. Also, I realize now that because the monitor I specified has FreeSync, I should get an rx 5700 as it is cheaper for similar performance. Thanks for the reply, though. I recognized you as soon as I saw your name because you are one of the top helpers in the forums imo. I salute you for your generous advice!