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Comment reply on Forum Topic "i7 4790k vs ryzen 2600"

  • 16 hours ago
  • 1 point

at least for titles that scale up to 4 cores or so

As for games that can use more than 4 cores I can see the Ryzen pulling ahead as it has more resources than the haswell i7. Basically which one that pulls ahead in game FPS depends on the game. They are very close FPS wise though but the 2600 holds up better to newer AAA titles. I would still go with the Ryzen myself as I still would get a great gaming experience but have the more cores for other tasks like content creation. Not to mention features like M.2 and the ability to upgrade to a 3000 gen Ryzen later on when the price falls a lot on them.

https://youtu.be/QKzLPqVWE9c

Comment reply on Forum Topic "omgg..... you check this crazy pc out."

  • 23 hours ago
  • 1 point

Well I do expect there to be certain costs on prebuilts. First starting with the cost of parts if you calculate the retail value, aka the amounts the store would sell them at normally then tack on a build cost amount which would depend on the complexity of the build. Say you see a prebuilt for $1050 and see you can buy all the parts and built it yourself for $900 then the $1050 price would seem very reasonable to me for a prebuilt. The company does make a profit margin on what they charge for retail parts but paying someone to put it together does cost money too. $50-$200 built cost depending on build complexity isn't unreasonable at all.

Though if it is going to be my computer I would refuse to pay someone to put it together for me. I would rather put it together myself as imo building it yourself is part of the fun of getting a new PC! I wouldn't want someone to rob me from that! lol

Comment reply on Forum Topic "omgg..... you check this crazy pc out."

  • 23 hours ago
  • 1 point

To be fair BestTry (cough best buy cough) is still trying to sell FX-8320+1050TI gaming PCs for over $800 USD....

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-gaming-desktop-amd-fx-series-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-black/6134141.p?skuId=6134141

That is a MUCH worse PC than what the OP listed. The one OP listed could be salvaged with a new GPU and another stick of ram. Nothing can be done on an out of date and dead platform.

Would be nice to finally see Bestbuy stop selling old FX systems as gaming systems for much higher costs that far better performing prebuilts that they also sell. This prebuilt is a bit better optimised and will blow that FX system out of the water for less cost. I still stand on the side that I would rather build my own PC but some of these builds are pathetic. My conscience would not allow me to sell a bulldozer system to someone for that much.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "im good at useing a pc but not buliding or upgrading one"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

Ahh well he could just use a cardboard box for a case!

Sorry couldn't resist! lol

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is a R5 1600 Still Good in 2019?"

  • 1 day ago
  • 2 points

I don't see why not. It is not like you are stuck on bulldozer or anything. If anything the r5-1600 is holding up better than the i5-7400 that it was meant to compete with when it was released. That is because it has 6 cores 12 threads. Also your RX 580 is a great GPU for 1080p performance and makes a perfect pairing for that CPU.

Not sure if you already have the 1600 or planning on buying it. If you already have it then it's a good CPU. My next advice is only if you are considering buying it new now.

If Going by PCPartpicker listed prices the 1600 is $16 cheaper with 3200mhz ram (as ryzen scales with ram speed) than the i5-9400f with 2666 ram (max speed supported on b365) Example Ryzen vs Example Intel

This video shows benchmarks between i5-8400 vs r5-1600 but keep in mind the 9400f is slightly faster than the 8400 due to slightly higher clock rates. They are going to be very close in performance.

If you go the route of the Ryzen then in 2-3 years the 3000 series ryzens will likely drop a lot in costs and a good 8 core CPU like the 3700x will make a nice upgrade then after a BIOS update on the motherboard.

I thought about showing the competition between both Intel and AMD to consider cost to performance on both sides to pick what better suits your need. As I am not a fanboy of a brand it may help to consider all options and weigh them against each other to find what is the better value to you.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "omgg..... you check this crazy pc out."

  • 1 day ago
  • 4 points

OMG is right, just not OMG in a good way.

advertised as a "Gaming Desktop" paired with a "GTX 1050 (2GB GDDR5)"

Sure it has a locked 8th gen Intel i7 but 8GB of ram and that GPU I cannot think of a proper use of this PC that doesn't involve wasting a ton of money. Surly gaming on that PC the CPU is held back by such a low end GPU and any workstation use that can fully use the i7 is held back by 8GB of ram and would have no need for the GPU as the igpu would be fine. Also doesn't even have a SSD and a basic 1TB HDD. For argument's sake let me toss together a build with the exact same CPU the i7-8700. Normally in a 1k budget build I would look at a r5 or i5 and leave more budget for the GPU.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor $309.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 Blue 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $20.79 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $78.98 @ Newegg
Memory OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $53.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $94.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB OC Video Card $329.89 @ OutletPC
Case Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case $54.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1003.61
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 17:55 EDT-0400
  • Same CPU
  • Air cooler for full boost clocks on CPU
  • traded 1TB HDD for 1TB NVMe SSD
  • 16gb (2x8 dual channel) of ram instead of 8 (1x8 single channel as listed in specs) also same speed as b360 chipset limited to 2666.
  • Motherboard has 4 ram slots instead of 2 for better ram upgrade options later on
  • Decent PSU
  • Huge upgrade on the GPU from a GTX 1050 2gb to a RTX 2060.

Still not my final pick for a ~1k budget but limiting myself to the same CPU as the prebuilt would result in this. Makes MUCH more sense for a gaming rig and will run circles in game FPS around the prebuilt. Again I would prioritize more cost to the GPU in a pure gaming build but still get an adequate CPU to pair with the GPU such as this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z7kGBb . The 2070 super is much better than the 2060.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Amazon is being annoying right now."

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

when you buy stuff on Amazon please be careful and check the merchant

This should apply to newegg as well as they do the same thing. Everyone expects it on ebay already as ebay never sells anything themselves and its the 3rd party sellers that carry everything.

On Amazon quite often I scrutinize the seller and fulfiller if it is something I need quickly. Sometimes I will order something from an overseas seller that crosses the ocean by boat but only when the price is super low and I don't need it right away. I had ordered some light socket adapters (GU24 to E26) that way for a friend mid May 2019 and it took till early this month for it to arrive. They were like $2 CAD with free shipping on a pair of them. They work and said friend can now use the inexpensive good LED bulbs instead of spending $20+ per crappy CFL GU24 bulb. His building swapped a bunch of light sockets to those to prevent people from using incandescent bulbs but he wasn't using them anyhow. I do agree that incandescent bulbs shouldn't be used anymore (except as an oven bulb) due to being too energy inefficient.

Generally when ordering anything on amazon even if the seller isn't amazon if it says "fulfilled by amazon" and shows in stock you generally will get your shipment quickly.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "The iPhone is affordable again!"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Yeah you still can't convince me to buy an apple product. Especially when I can build a rather decent gaming PC for the price the last model was selling here in Canada. Hell even my sister's gaming PC costed less AFTER our 13% tax and shipping costs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How do you power a sata nvme drive"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Sata and NVMe are very different. However both are available in the M.2 format.

If it is a M.2 drive it is powered by the port you plug it into.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "DO YOU KNOW IF INTELL AND AMD WILL RELEASE NEW CPUS THE NEXT YEAR?/2020?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

Just keep in mind performance of products not yet released and tested are unknown, more so when even the companies making them have not even announced the exact products yet.

If you just want to upgrade but don't really have a need to then go ahead and wait for future stuff to come out. You are only adding more value to what you have now by using it longer.

If you NEED a new system now then don't wait. Buy the best product within your price range now. Say you are either on a much to out of date system like a FX CPU or you experienced a CPU or motherboard failure and the system no longer functions then waiting till next year to see what comes out is not going to help you at all.

Also never pre-order hardware. You are never getting a better price deal that way and there is a risk that the product could end up being a flop. Remember Bulldozer release? Remember the GTX 1650? Wait for it to be released and tested to see if it is a good product or not before buying.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "which is faster in performance? and speed Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

That 10TB enterprise drive is the exact HDD I suggested instead of the 8TB Barracuda Pro he was looking at. The value of that drive is just crazy good right now.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "im good at useing a pc but not buliding or upgrading one"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

i like the case but i kinda wanna keep it

If OP really likes the case he has now he can save money by not buying that case and re-using his old case. Not sure how good it is on ventilation but those specs on your suggested build are not hot components and should still be fine. However that FD Focus G case is a nice case for the price.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "which is faster in performance? and speed Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 1 point

From what I gathered he wants the HDD for a 6+ TB steam library of games and that much is not practical to have on all SSD storage due to costs. We have been talking in private messages but I have gone over a few recommendations such as having steam folders on both his 2TB SSD he has and another on the HDD and just moving his most often played games to the SSD or partitioning the SSD with a 256GB chunk to be reserved for primocache to cache the HDD. Not sure which he is going to pick but hopefully he gets something that will fit his needs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "500gb Corsair m.2 or 1tb ssd."

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

If you simply replace the storage drive in your PC desktop or laptop and reinstall windows on the new drive in said PC Windows should still be licenced to the PC. Retail licences can be installed on up to as many PCs as it is licenced to be on (usually one but it is possible to buy bulk licences from microsoft). OEM licences usually get stuck to the same PC and cannot be transferred to another. If all you are doing is changing the storage in the laptop then it is still the same laptop and the OEM licence will still apply to it.

Also booting windows off a HDD is painfully slow. Same with overall responsiveness of the system when running off a HDD for the boot drive. If the windows licence is an OEM one then you may not be able to move the licence to a new PC if that is your goal.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "500gb Corsair m.2 or 1tb ssd."

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Well I would still opt for capacity over SSD speed as it sucks to run out of room and the speed difference in game loading bars between NVMe and SATA SSDs are minor. The reason your question was confusing is because NVMe SSDs are SSDs too and they are offered in M.2 form factor along with PCIe expansion card form factor as well. SATA SSDs are the slower but SATA SSDs are both offered in the 2.5" form factor and the M.2 form factor as well.

I guess this was the NVMe drive you were looking at. For $84 on newegg that is a bit pricey for a 480GB drive. There are several other cheaper options to look at and if you don't mind spending $11 more you can get a 1TB NVMe drive from another brand too. Take a look at these drives for example

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Jokes"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

The price of the Mac Pro.

How about the price on just the stand that holds it? $999

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Jokes"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Dell does have better warranties than HP but yeah I totally agree about building your own. You end up with a much better system and you get to pick all the parts for the PC so you can get faster ram, quality PSU, better motherboard, etc. Also to me part of the fun getting a new PC is building it yourself.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How Long Have You Had Your Wireless Headset?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Years ago I tried the Logitech g930 headset and even though I was careful with it the hinges kept breaking apart and I had 3 warranty replacements within the warranty timeframe and broke again shortly after warranty. I have never had such a flimsy headset. I replaced it with a plantronics USB headset (cant remember the model#) in like 2012 and that headset still works today. The audio drivers it uses for windows 10 does make the headset sound cheap on the sound so I managed to get a great deal on the hyperX cloud 2 headset for like $30 CAD from a local auction. I have had that headset for about 2 years and it is still holding up strong.

As for wireless only the logitech one was wireless, the other 2 were wired. When the logitech one worked the battery life for me was several hours and I could still plug it in to charge at my PC while I game if the battery did get low. Range wise I could still go to the kitchen (not that far away) and grab a drink or food while still having the headset on.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "BUDGET BUILD FOR CONSOLE RECORDING AND VIDEO EDITING"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

First of all the 2Tb HDD is a refurbished drive at that price. Follow the amazon link and it is listed as "renewed" so I would steer clear from that drive. You are looking for this kind of 2tb hdd being sold in new condition.

From experience though 2TB fills up quick when dealing with videos so I would look into at least a 4TB HDD. Well you can always add another HDD later on too.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "which is faster in performance? and speed Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

You can use Primocache with any HDD. In my youtube video I used with with my 3TB Hitachi 7200rpm HDD and it boosted its speed by a good margin. You seem to be hard set on seagate barracuda or WD blacks. The seagate drive I linked is a higher model than either of those 2, it is an enterprise drive and has 10tb too so it can hold all of your massive game library. I selected that drive to do it being a 7200rpm drive with one of the best GB per cost ratios on a 10tb HDD.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RPtQzy/seagate-enterprise-capacity-10-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st10000nm0086

Comment reply on Forum Topic "which is faster in performance? and speed Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Well the baracuda pro and WD black drives are fine for those too as 7200rpm drives are a bit faster than 5400rpm drives. That being said videos, pics, docs, etc doesn't even need 7200rpm hdd speeds for you to be able to access them normally.

Game loading times will be affected by the drive RPM but I still would recommend to just cache the drive if you are really concerned about speed.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "which is faster in performance? and speed Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Then get yourself a 10TB HDD that has a good cost per GB like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RPtQzy/seagate-enterprise-capacity-10-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st10000nm0086

Then off your 2TB SSD give it 2 partitions, a 256GB partition for a cache and the rest for windows. Then get primocache and use that 256gb partition to cache the HDD. That will give you the fastest HDD performance. It will outperform any HDD on the market by doing that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "which is faster in performance? and speed Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/tmTPxr,qLRzK8,Q7kj4D/

There are a few bulk storage HDDs for all the stuff that doesn't need SSD speed. As you have a 2tb SSD and just need a HDD for the bulk storage even a 5400rpm drive will work just fine. All 3 of those drives do have 256mb cache and don't break the bank.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "which is faster in performance? and speed Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

How much storage do you think you will need TB wise? Also if you have a 2TB SSD already then why are you worried about how fast a HDD can load a game? 1.5TB (leaving the rest for the OS and such) is ample room for many games and your almost never played games doesn't matter if it is on HDD speeds anyhow.

Here is a super cheap 6TB HDD for bulk storage: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kXXfrH/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st6000nm0034 Edit- never mind that drive, not a sata drive, I will find another one

If you are storing videos, pictures, documents, etc then you should not have to worry about HDD speed at all. Even a 5400rpm drive will handle those fine.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "which is faster in performance? and speed Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Hard drives will have the slowest loading times for games regardless. If you are so concerned about speed then get a SSD. An in between option to a HDD and SSD is a cached drive or hybrid drive like the firecuda from seagate. A cached drive is using a program to use an SSD to cache your HDD for you. It can improve game loading time by 30%-50% faster. An example of said program is Primocache. If you have a 480gb+ boot drive and a large capacity HDD you can partition the main boot SSD to section off a 100GB chunk of it and use that to cache the HDD. I did a youtube video on comparing game loading times when using a super cheap SSD to cache an HDD but keep in mind said program costs like $30 so it is only really viable if you want to get a 4tb or larger HDD to cache.

https://youtu.be/XiK8ylcwKo8

Now as for what Gilroar is saying about the speeds in practical use being too close to tell apart say one drive takes 3 minutes and 12 seconds to load a game, the other may take 3 minutes and 11 seconds. After waiting over 3 minutes that 1 second won't be noticeable. Drop it on a SSD and it may load in under 30 seconds. This is why we say go SSD if you are really concerned about game loading speeds.

If your motherboard supports NVMe then I would suggest to look at the Intel 660p M.2 SSDs as they are very competitively priced and have NVMe speeds which is faster than regular sata SSDs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrading from the i5-9400F"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

If it were me I would not think so. If you don't have an overclocking chipset motherboard the 100% not worth it but if you do then you will get a bit faster but I still think the cost would be a bit steep compared to the performance you will gain.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Samsung 970 EVO Plus or Western Digital SN750 NVMe for gaming?"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Aware of the fact storage doesn't affect fps, what I really mean is I want to make sure it'll handle any high demanding game now and into the future e.g., Cyberpunk 2077, Halo Infinite, games that require an RTX GPU

Capacity plays a much larger role as games can take up a ton of space these days. Games out now can already take 50-100gb of space for a single game.

what's with all the talk about the 970 Evo plus and SN750 for gaming?

100% Marketing nonsense.

what do you think about the 1tb intel drive and if this is fine

It is still way faster than a SATA SSD and has an awesome price to capacity amount. If you spend as much as you intended to on the other WD or samsung drives you can basically spend about the same and get double the capacity on the Intel SSD. I run the 512GB version of the 660p now in my desktop and have been since early 2017. My only gripe that it is only 512gb and not larger. Loading times on games are fast for the ones on the SSD.

Can't argue for these prices: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/9nhKHx,7MQG3C/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is 350W PSU good enough with a graphics card?"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Not familiar with that brand of PSU. Looking online it shows a 10 year warranty which normally is a good indicator but how good are they on backing up their warranties? I have seen some companies offer long warranties but never able to take up on them while others like EVGA are awesome about it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Big Azz Desk Found!!!"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

I am not really sure what this post is even about but a 72" wide desk is only a foot wider than the desk I have now and it does not feel all that big to me. Not especially when you have it loaded up with multiple displays and such. If you are looking for a gigantic desk then perhaps you can get some brackets on your walls and make one that spans all the way across one side of that room. Make it the right height then add Ikea drawers underneath for added storage and depending on the size of room you can have a desk big enough for 2-3 people to all have theri gaming battlestations setup at once. Something like this: http://drakensbergbackpackers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/ikea-computer-desk-ideas-custom-large-table.jpg

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Secondary Video Storage for Plex?"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

True, I would not count on RAID as a form of backup but just as redundancy incase of a drive failure. Never know when the raid controller dies or lose your house to a natural disaster or fire so an offsite backup for anything that cannot be replaced is a good idea. There are online backups too that are really good such as backblaze as they have a small monthly cost but unlimited backup space. Well only really useful for people that don't have bandwidth caps from their ISPs as uploading everything would suck if you have a couple of TB to upload.

I would still suggest to use HDDs designed for raid regardless if it is a software raid or hardware raid. They are essentially built for it and yes they do cost more but you get what you pay for. Though even 5400rpm can provide enough speed for a couple people streaming videos at the same time. I see WD increased their warranty on the WD blue lines of HDDs to 2 years from 1 but the seagate ironwolf drives gets 3 years and ironwolf pro drives gets 5 years of warranty. Similarly the Red drives from WD are also RAID designed drives and also have the same warranties as the seagate ironwolfs. Red = 3y, red pro = 5y.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Any point in NVME vs Sata 3 SSD?"

  • 5 days ago
  • 2 points

The one of the biggest issues with HDDs feeling slooooow is seek times for data and SSDs largely do away with that. NVMe doesn't really improve on seek times compared to SATA, they're both near as instant compared to HDDs. The extra bandwidth is nice, it's just not the biggest benefit all the time.

Well to expand on this with some numbers I am sure many have heard the term IOPS before, Input/Output Operations Per Second. Basically in a nutshell it is a metric which corresponds with how fast the drive can locate small files and when loading programs like the OS or games it can make a big difference in speed of such. A 7200 RPM HDD will have the average IOPS rating of 175. A modern sata ssd has a rating around 80k-100k while NVME ranges from 125k-600k.

Now how much faster is not linear with the increase of IOPS so a 200k IOPS drive is not twice as fast as 100k IOPS. There is such a huge gap between HDDs and SATA SSDs that the speed difference is night and day. It can mean a 4-5 minute OS boot on a HDD would be ~15-20 seconds on a sata ssd. NVMe may drop that boot time to 10-15 seconds in comparison so not a huge gain in that aspect of use.

To give an example of one use that CAN benefit from a NVMe SSD over a sata SSD is with video editing. Say you are working on a timeline with segments of like 20 different recordings being added to one video. As you scrub through said timeline it needs to keep accessing the drive at a high rate in order to keep up with what you are doing so a NVMe drive would have a good advantage here. If it is casual use and just doing a few video clips or time isnt money (not doing it as a job) then there is nothing wrong with a sata SSD.

In OP's stated use I don't see any examples of use that would greatly benefit from NVMe over Sata. Now one drive I would mention is the 660p intel SSD as the cost per GB is actually extremely competitive on a raw storage standpoint to sata SSDs and you get NVMe performance, well not the fastest NVMe but dependently faster than sata. If you had to buy a new SSD and can use NVMe on your motherboard there is a good argument on that drive due to value for your money, not because it is NVMe.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will r5 2600 bottleneck an rtx 2080?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Well I feel bottlenecking is the wrong term here. You have to consider the games you are wanting to play and the resolution and frame rate you are targeting. Both the CPU and GPU needs to meet the requirements for the game to achieve desired performance.

A solid 6 core 12 thread CPU will handle any modern game well but if you are trying to target 165hz or 200hz then I would suggested an unlocked Intel CPU. 144hz depends on the game for a 2600 but the 3600 would be a better pick, anything less its fine.

As for resolution this is entirely on the GPU. A 2080 can handle many games at 4k and is a solid pick if your goal is 1440p. I would not even bother with a 2080 on a 1080p screen as the GPU can dish out far more than what a 1080p screen can even display.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Internal hdd, Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

When loading programs and games off a drive the raw read and write speeds for max potential is not what determines the speed. Usually it is how fast it takes the drive to locate the individual tiny files that it needs to load and that is mostly measured in IOPS. A 7200 RPM drive usually has an IOPS rating of about 175. A Sata SSD has an IOPS of 80,000 to 100,000. A NVMe SSD can be from 125,000 to 600,000. If using it as loading games I bet you won't really notice much of a difference between the seagate or the WD. You will notice a large difference with a SSD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Secondary Video Storage for Plex?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

A 7400rpm HDD should have no issues streaming a video from. You don't need SSD speed for that and the same amount of SSD capacity is super expensive too.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Samsung 970 EVO Plus or Western Digital SN750 NVMe for gaming?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

I play a lot of World of Warcraft where getting in a 40 man pvp group at full settings with some specs is where you might as well get a toaster

First of all your storage will have ZERO effect of FPS. It only affects the loading bars when zoning in. A decent SSD is fast enough to zone into an instance and start when everyone else does while a HDD may get the tank killed for running off while the healer is still zoning in. Going from a good SATA SSD to a NVMe SSD will improve loading bars a bit more but by that point you are hitting diminishing returns and spending a ton on a fast storage NVMe drive does not make sense.

When you are in a 40 vs 40 BG in WoW it is really the single core CPU speed that really caps your framerate. WoW is notoriously single threaded for a portion of its processing so when you have a ton of players on your screen at once in combat your FPS will tank even on an OC i9-9900k. It is just the nature of the game engine itself. Faster storage has nothing to do with this at all.

Unless you are doing video editing where the speed of the drive matters when scrubbing through a video timeline in your editor then I would not bother splitting hairs over specific NVMe drives to see which one is the fastest. Instead I would focus on a budget NVMe drive that is still faster than a SATA SSD and opt for more store to hold more games as that would be the bigger quality of life change for me.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/JLdxFT,7MQG3C,QQrmP6/

For cheaper than either one of those Samsung or WD drives 1TB versions that you listed you can get a 2TB of the Intel 660p NVMe SSD. Sure it is slower than the samsung but it is still much faster than any SATA SSDs on the market making it king in value and still has awesome performance.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Secondary Video Storage for Plex?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Raid 5 is nice, striping with parity. Basically how ever many of the same HDDs that are in the array you have the total capacity of all minus one drive. 3x4 TB HDDs = 8TB and 4x4 TB HDDs = 12TB of storage and that lost space is actually for redundancy. If you lose 1 drive in the array you can replace it and not lose any of your data no matter which HDD it is. Raid 6 is another version where you have 2 drives redundancy instead of 1.

After doing a quick check the cheapest HDD on cost per GB that is designed for use in RAID is the seagate ironwolf 6TB HDD at a cost of 02.3 cents per GB. 3 or 4 of those drives in a RAID will offer a ton of video storage. Using HDDs not designed for RAID can be more of a headache than it is worth.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q7kj4D/seagate-ironwolf-nas-6-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st6000vn0033

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best cpu for 4k gaming"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Both the Ryzen and Intel are capable of 120hz generally. 4k 120hz will still be very heavily bottlenecked by the GPU. Personally I would aim for 1440p high refresh over 4k but depending on the gaming experience you are looking for an argument can be made for 4k gaming. Considering you can get 1440p in as high as 165fps the 120fps isn't a super high target from either the 3600x or 9600k. I would find high refresh rate better for high paced action where reaction times are key such as competitive first person shooter games but higher resolutions like 4k are good for those very visually appealing games and you want that cinematic look where you don't need a high refresh rate to enjoy the game. For 4k 120hz though you need a ton of GPU power and the costs of 2x 2080 ti cards is going to be more than what most people spend on their entire computers peripherals and all.

Just keep in mind no matter the hardware and resolutions some game engines cannot hold 60+fps at all times so some games will still have dips that hardware may not overcome. Some games also frame cap lower such as Tales of Zestiria caps at 30 unless you find the 3rd party patch to set it to 60.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Internal hdd, Seagate barracuda pro vs wd black?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Well installing and loading programs/games on HDDs and trying to compare the speeds is moot for the most part. You won't really notice much of a difference in game loading bars across comparable 7200rpm HDDs. Well you may from 7200rpm to a 5400rpm drive.

If you want faster game loading times 2 options to look at is either a budget SSD but you won't get 6TB of capacity for a reasonable cost or to use a SSD to cache your HDD. If you have a reasonably sized SSD already but it doesn't have room for all your games you might be able to partition off a 100GB chunk off the drive (480gb or larger SSD) and use a program like primocache to cache the HDD. On average I found you get about a 33% increase of game loading speed. Sure it still isn't as fast as a SSD but for $30 more for that program you might be able to use your main boot SSD to help cache your HDD for faster loading. I made a forum thread about that here: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/321254-primocache-vs-hdd

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3700X or 9700K for NVENC"

  • 7 days ago
  • 2 points

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/jHZFf7,qryV3C,QKJtt6/

Looks like there may be stock issues on the 3700x CPU but if you can get one at MSRP then that would work great. There really isn't much difference between the 3700x and 3800x as both are 8 core 16 thread but just have slightly different binnings.

The way I would look at this is both CPUs will do the job you listed just fine. The unlocked Intel does cost more but offers a bit more performance. You also need to buy an aftermarket cooler for the Intel as it doesn't come with stock and the 3700x does come with a stock cooler. Sure there is merit getting an aftermarket cooler for the Ryzen too.

Basically the Intel Performs a bit better but costs more. For cost to performance ratio the Ryzen is still the better value as the performance gap is smaller than the price gap. As both CPUs will work it just depends if you want to pay that extra cash or not. If it were me I would go for the Ryzen.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need a cheap solution to storage"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

I have been using the 512gb version in my main rig since early 2017. Been working fine for me over the years.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need a cheap solution to storage"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

You can get a 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD for under $100. It is faster than any sata based SSD.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nhKHx/intel-660p-series-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Thoughts on Fry's Closing?"

  • 8 days ago
  • 1 point

Years ago I pre-ordered wrath of the litch king expansion from them online, world of warcraft expack. They did charge my credit card for it and then a week before it was going to ship they canceled my order without notifying me. They also never refunded me either. Two days before the launch I called in to check the status and found out what had happened. I lost out of the collectors edition because of it but the reason they canceled it was due to it not being in stock. They also stated they couldn't refund the money because software is not refundable. After a while on the phones and talking to a supervisor they agreed to refund me but with a %25 restocking fee. I ended up having to go to my bank and have a chargeback done. Of course I got a call back from Bestbuy to pay them back and I told them to take me to court over it. After that I will NEVER shop with them again.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What is best for future-proofing?"

  • 8 days ago
  • 3 points

by “content creation” I just mean basic word documents

Yeah that barely takes a single CPU core lol. Here I was thinking video editing and such.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Liquid vs Air Cooling"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

There are some crazy air coolers on the market. I got the Dark Rock Pro 3 with my Ryzen Stealth builds (in my completed builds) and I run the CPU (r7 1800x) at 4.0 GHz @ 3.81v. At a 20c ambient temp these are the temps I get. Basically 28c at idle and 56c under 100% load. Only takes about 8-10 minutes for my cooler to be fully heat saturated to where the temps stops increasing. The DRP3 actually beats some of the 240mm AIO coolers in raw performance and also makes less noise than said coolers. This is why I opted into getting an air cooler for my build over an AIO.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CFM Questions"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

CFM is measured on a fan in open air at full speed. In a case a high CFM rated but low pressure fan may lose more CFM in the case due to trying to for the air over a lower CFM rated fan with higher pressure. Also CFM is not liner to the speed of the fan and there are a ton of variables that affects the overall performance of the fans.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Liquid vs Air Cooling"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

The Mugen 5 rev B is also an awesome cooler.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Raid 0?"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Well just to outline the performance difference take a look at these 3 NVMe SSDs:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/g6Nv6h,Zxw7YJ,K6Jtt6/

All 3 are 1TB but here is a breakdown on the max 'R'ead, 'W'rite, and 'IOPS' of the drives:

  • Intel 660p: R=1800MB/s W=1800MB/s IOPS=220k
  • Samsung 970 Evo Plus: R=3300MB/s W=1700MB/s IOPS=600k
  • Samsung 970 Pro: R=3500MB/s W=2700MB/s IOPS=500k
  • Top Sata SSD: R=560MB/s W=560 MB/s IOPS=100k, These speeds are basically the limit of the SATA port so that is the top theoretical speeds any Sata SSD can get.

Now when doing raid 0 the speed for the IOPS basically doesn't change much as that is the speed it takes for the drive to locate small files and for loading one file all drives apart of the raid array needs to find that file. Now 2 SATA SSDs in raid 0 will have faster read and write speeds than a single drive it is not going to be double the speed due to the raid controller overhead. The Intel 660p has a great cost per GB even when compared to sata SSDs and its performance is better than 3 sata SSDs in raid 0. The 660p is a fantastic M.2 drive for cost to performance.

The Samsung Evo Plus is one of the best SSDs for consumers for loading data off it but the Pro version offers better write performance in the event it is being used as said scratch disk and RAID 0 SATA SSDs just can't compare in raw performance. Sure you can RAID 0 2x NVMe SSDs in a PC that can support more than 1 but then again only for certain workloads that can take advantage of it. Simply loading games still load fine off SATA SSDs and only get a slight lift on NVMe in terms of speed. The 660p NVMe is cheap enough and performs well enough to make it a great option for a gaming PC's main boot/game drive.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Liquid vs Air Cooling"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

I wouldn't be surprised if the air cooler gets better temps because 120mm AIOs are not very good for performance for the cost. Though a Fuma 2 cooler will outperform both of those coolers and have a reasonable cost too: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YsHRsY/scythe-fuma-2-5117-cfm-cpu-cooler-scfm-2000

Also the Fuma 2 was designed in a way to not crowd out your ram so if you want ram with tall heat spreaders you won't have an issue with it fitting. The Fuma 2 is actually getting closer to a 240mm AIO in terms of performance for cooling so price to performance is actually really good.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Used drives poping up from Amazon"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Perhaps it may be an option to include if it is new or refurb if it is advertised as a refurb. Either that or try to exclude it as a suggested price if it is a refurb price. If people want to save a buck and get a refurb it's fine as long as they know what they are getting before they buy it. Of course I am all for blacklisting sellers that lie about their products because that does not help anyone.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Raid 0?"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Raid 0 I would say is viable if you need a super fast scratch disk where the data going on it is only temporary but you need the faster speeds. Though it is not as big of deal today as it used to be as now we have crazy fast NVMe SSDs that don't cost your first born child anymore. As for data storage I would not touch raid 0 with a 10 foot pole. Bulk mass data storage like if you have a ton of video files and such raid 5 or raid 6 with 4+ high capacity HDDs is a good idea. 4x8TB raid5 HDDs would have 24TB of usable storage and 1 drive of redundancy so if you lose any one of those 4 drives you can replace it and not lose your data. Raid 6 is 2 drive redundancy. It is not any faster than a single drive but that is not what Raid 5 or 6 are for.

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