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Comment reply on Forum Topic "What is your favorite Linux distro?"

  • 42 months ago
  • 0 points

OK, I'll be that guy who actually likes Ubuntu with Unity. :P (Currently using 16.10 Beta 2)

That being said, I only use that only my dedicated Linux laptop. My server for Minecraft and such uses Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with a minimal LXDE desktop as needed. My Banana Pro uses Bananian with LXDE as needed. I say as needed because I use the terminal or SSH on these 90% of the time just to update the system.

PS. I like Mate and Cinnamon desktops too. Not a fan of non debian distros.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New Router"

  • 42 months ago
  • 1 point

Well, I am going to be a bit biased here and say get an ASUS router. I am a big fan of the hardware quality and the ability to use 3rd party firmware. I personally use an ASUS RT-AC66U. It has support for AC (Wave 1 Only) and N for high speeds, Gigabit ethernet ports, dual USB 2, and 3 external antennas. It's not too expensive at $115 as of writing this.

If you want to invest in a bit more speed on the 2.4GHz channel, the RT-AC68U is also good. It has faster N speeds, a faster CPU, and 1 USB 3. It costs about $155. This is likely not worth the upgrade unless you have some sort of streaming server or a large house and need fast, permeable 2.4GHz WiFi.

***Side note that ASUS routers have different last letters in their model names such as W or R instead of U. This is for White and Retail and doesn't affect the hardware.

***For the custom firmware, I use WRT Merlin. It aims to add feature to the stock firmware and increase performance. It is regularly updated and works fantastic on most ASUS routers.

Moving on, I hear the Netgear Nighthawk routers are also nice. The AC1750 is similar to the AC66U I mentioned above and the AC1900 to the AC68U. They have the same speeds but you may find you like Netgear better. I just wanted to mention them since they are rated so well and priced similarly.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it worth spending 10 bucks more for 8GB of DDR3-2133 for my X4 880K?"

  • 42 months ago
  • 0 points

If this were an APU, I would say definitely because the graphics are heavily dependent on the RAM used. Because it's just an Athlon chip, the faster RAM won't really increase performance that much. For $10 though, I can't see why you wouldn't if you can afford it. I would personally use the faster RAM just because...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I think I was sent a used motherboard."

  • 42 months ago
  • 2 points

That sounds very suspicious and I will have to agree with the person who responded above. Contact Amazon support ASAP. Not all boards come shrink wrapped and the static bag inst always sealed, but you should have the proper amount of accessories.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this okay, and does my CPU have anything to do with it?"

  • 42 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry I'm just now seeing this but in short, it should not be an issue to run Haswell refresh at 1.6V or even 1.65V. You really just need good, clean power coming from the motherboard. The CPU's memory controller should be fine. After all, Intel allows XMP to have profiles with this speed and voltage.

That being said, there is little difference between 1.5V 1866MHz and 1.6V 2133MHz in terms of performance. Underclock your RAM if you're uncomfortable with it. Best of luck and please feel free to message me if you have any questions!!!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "RAM Confusion"

  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

If the set is not supported then you will likely have to manually set the clock and timings in the BIOS. That set in particular should be 9-9-9-24 2T 1600MHz. That is the settings Corsair supports and tests the RAM at. The programmed speed is actually only 1333MHz so you will likely have to set this up. Regardless, this is all easy to do in the ASUS UEFI.

Comment reply on rktoast's Completed Build: Fear Of A Blank Hard Drive (FoaBHD)

  • 56 months ago
  • 2 points

I understand using the bread ties! I use them on my SATA cables so I can swap HDDs as needed every now and then. Lol I wouldn't reject the SP fans either. They're kinda expensive but great quality. I wouldn't worry about it because you have great cable management and lots of fans. Really great build!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "RAM Confusion"

  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

Honestly, it will depend on what motherboard and CPU you have as to if you will experience RAM issues. It is recommended that you use the same kit if you add RAM later. Please realize, even if you use the same kit, the actual chips on the RAM might be from different vendors. This can cause memory errors and corrupt data. The board may not POST or see the additional RAM.

If you can, go with 2x8GB low profile RAM. I have a similar issue and use 2x4GB or low profile Corsair RAM in 2 machines. This works best because you wont see a performance increase from using 4 sticks unless you have an LGA 2011 motherboard.

PS: Make sure you can use the A set of RAM slots. Most motherboards make you use a specific set of slots first.

Comment reply on rktoast's Completed Build: Fear Of A Blank Hard Drive (FoaBHD)

  • 56 months ago
  • 2 points

Beautiful work! +1 That cable management looks fantastic and I love the blue theme! My only other comment would be that the SP fans are designed for pushing air through radiators and the AF are for moving air in cases. Just as a note ;)

Comment reply on LiterallyPizzaSauce's Completed Build: Semper Fi

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

PSU: Cheap, plenty of power, decent reviews. I did have to re-secure a cap on the inside that had gotten loose but it's now perfectly fine. Pretty stinking quiet too.

NO!!! The fact that a cap was lose should have told you to trash it on the spot! That brand is tier 5 and should NEVER be used. It is the kind of cheap crap OEMs put in their systems because nobody checks the PSU until they add a GPU or upgrade.

It has decent reviews from people who have no idea what their doing. That PSU has many Newegg reviews reporting sparks and a dead system. Even fires! Please for the sake of yourself, your family, and the PC replace that PSU now!

Here is the tier list BTW. Professionals test units and they are grouped by results here.

Comment reply on arcana's Completed Build: Vulpes Vulpes

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice orange theme. Looks like you got a clean build and good performance at a great price. +1

PS: My Apex is the same way. The software colors are way off because of bleed in the other zones. Engine has become buggy lately... :/

Comment reply on Blog Post "AMD Radeon R9 / R7 300 Series Released"

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

I'm 99% positive

Now your 100% xD

Comment reply on Blog Post "AMD Radeon R9 / R7 300 Series Released"

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

They are rebrands of the 290X and 290. The Grenada XT core in the 390X is the same as the Hawaii XT core in the 290X. Performance is better though, thanks to a memory overclock. The Fury will be a new core though. Fiji XT and new High Bandwidth Memory.

Comment reply on Critchard's Completed Build: $800 Monochrome Gaming Build

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Those coolers are tricky to get in the right position. I always have a difficult time getting the cooler mounts to line up with the backplate. Good call with the alcohol and coffee filters. They truely save the day.

Comment reply on Critchard's Completed Build: $800 Monochrome Gaming Build

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Very nice. It's well rounded and you found a good price on everything. Nice job with the free RAM.

I purchased the Cryorig H7 cooler, but I didn't end up installing it. I don't know if it was just my lack of experience, or the mounting hardware, but I just couldn't find out how to install it.

Kindly put, both. I had an awful time with the Hyper 212 EVO my first time around. AMD makes it harder because you have too remove the stock cooler mount and backplate. Then you just set the new backplate in and adjust the mounts on the cooler to match the posts from the new backplate. If you do install, don't forget to reapply thermal paste. Use 91+% isopropyl alcohol and coffee filters. ;)

Comment reply on Tyemer's Completed Build: Great Budget PC for 1080p, 60 Frames per Second!

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

You did OK, but could have done better for about the same price...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor $49.99 @ Micro Center
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $28.99 @ NCIX US
Motherboard MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $42.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $50.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive $73.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card $129.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $40.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $32.99 @ SuperBiiz
Wireless Network Adapter Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter $18.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $469.70
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-17 02:47 EDT-0400

That CPU was a bad decision. The G3258 costs about $15 more and is unlocked for overclocking. This would have given you quite the performance boost after being overclocked. Also, there is no reason to but the Hyper 212 EVO for a locked chip. The stock fan is fine.

That motherboard doesn't seem too bad. Apparently the BIOS is a bit buggy but overall OK. H81 would be needed to OC the 3258 just as an FYI. Also, the RAM was a good pick. Corsair RAM is good quality. I can't speak for that exact set since it's surely a newer revision than the kit I have, but in my experience, it's good RAM. Just don't mess with the timings.

WD drives are preferred so nice pick for the price. Zotac GPUs are fine, but EVGA is a better brand and they are priced the same. The boards are both reference, so they're effectively the same GPU. EVGA support is just better in case of problems.

As for the case, no! The ThermalTake Commander is the reason I will never buy their products again. It is cheap, flimsy, and easy to scratch. The front drive bays will break too. Moving on... Corsair is a good brand, but their CX and CS have come under fire lately for the Chinese parts. I would have used EVGA. Their low end is a bit better. And cheap WiFi cards are what you pay for...

Overall, you didn't do bad. You just could have done better. +1 for effort and not buying a console like a n00b.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Enthoo Pro vs Define r5"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Agreed. 3 fans and big heatpipes are a need for that power hungry beast. Backplates should be a requirement too. Some brands just don't understand that...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Enthoo Pro vs Define r5"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. I was not aware of the Direct CU II issues on the 290X. Luckily we have already seen a redesign with the 300 series. I kinda hope the Furry is water cooled. I doubt it though...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Enthoo Pro vs Define r5"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Personally I would definitely get a better brand like ASUS Direct CU II or Gigabyte Windforce just to keep the stock temps at bay.

And right here I mentioned why you should choose a card with an aftermarket cooler. I really hate it when people pull a quote and repeat me. He was planning to use a stock card from Nvidia but I wanted him to avoid it since he's now likely getting the AMD Fury.

Furthermore, the R9 295x2 is already watercooled and the lightning is $70 more than the base line 290x with decent coolers.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are Seagate 3TB HDDs OK after all?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Fortunately, I don't need a build guide. I also lost respect for your guides when I saw the AMD SSD. I'm glad your impressed by your long titles and randomly selected parts. Anyway I'm done with this. Feel free to keep this thread going!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are Seagate 3TB HDDs OK after all?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Practice what you preach much?

Then I feel bad for those following your build guides.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are Seagate 3TB HDDs OK after all?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, I realize that is a anecdotal fallacy and honestly, welcome to the internet!

Does anyone have experience with Seagate as of late?

I answered the question, as did you. I have experience and I gave my opinion. That's all this is. If you want to spend more time pointing out which brand and model is better for what, then by all means, be my guest. Furthermore, have fun pointing out the fallacies of the internet.

Bottom line: I will not use Seagate because their drive have failed more often for me and I prefer the WD warranty and support.

PS: I love how your build guides use Seagate 50% of the time...

Me: I still use WD HHDs nearly exclusively.

You: So do I...

Practice what you preach much? Night!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are Seagate 3TB HDDs OK after all?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm not saying they are 25%. Seagate has not been as reliable for me though. WD blue are cheap, more reliable, and have a good warranty, so I use them.

I don't understand why they would just assume stacks of drives spinning 24/7 with sheet metal and washers in between is okay for anyone xD

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are Seagate 3TB HDDs OK after all?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I had not read it 100% through. I did just read it 100% this time. I see now where the Seagate bias comes from. Looking at page 3, I now understand that the test didn't give equal environments. The Seagate drives were used in the Rev. 1 chassis. This makes the reliability of the test shaky at best.

I still use WD HHDs nearly exclusively. I like their warranty and customer service much better.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are Seagate 3TB HDDs OK after all?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

So do explain to me though, what was wrong with the Blackblaze test. Yes, they used consumer drives. Yes, they abused consumer drives. They also gave all drives a consistent workload and environment. This should make the results exaggerated, but Seagate sill has a much higher failure percentage.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are Seagate 3TB HDDs OK after all?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

But the bottom line is this: trust no single hard drive. Have at minimum File History, Time Machine, or Deja Dup running to make backups. If you really need your data safe, say for professional reasons, use a RAID array. FreeNAS and ZFS are also fantastic.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "960 or r9 280x?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh, sorry. They're not even listed on AMD's website yet and don't officially launch until next week but are appearing in US stores. We broke the system...

BTW the cards are all rebrands so it appears. The Furry card with the HBM will launch soon after the rest of the cards. So far we have seen the 390 and 360 (I believe) from XFX

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are Seagate 3TB HDDs OK after all?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I have heard the horror stories of Seagate drives, especially the 3TB for whatever reason. I guess you get what you pay for. HGST might be the best way to go according to Blackblaze. They still make their own products, but are now owned by WD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "960 or r9 280x?"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

R9 380X just launched though. Either watch for price drops of invest in the newer card...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "MB and CPU suggestion, update to existing GIS and office workstation"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I would check out the ASUS X99-A USB 3.1 for your motherboard. ASUS makes great products and their X99 series is among the best. There is also a version without USB 3.1 here that is slightly cheaper. For a CPU, I suggest the Intel Core i7 5820K. It has 6 cores and a decent clock speed for the price. It does use DDR4 RAM, as do all X99 CPUs and motherboards.

If you want to save money and use your DDR3 RAM you can use the Z97 platform. In that case I would recommend the Intel Core i7 5775C. It has just launched and will be available from all major merchants web sites. If you need everything now, I recommend the Intel Core i7 4790K. Both are quad core and have high clock speeds and hyper threading. For the motherboard there are two close options. The first is the ASUS Z97-PRO USB 3.1 which has the latest USB but less ports overall. The ASUS Z97-WS lacks USB 3.1, but has 2 more 3.0 ports. They have the same number of SATA between SATA 3 and SATA Express (running in SATA 3 mode).

If you need more USB or SATA at any time, there are many expansion slots where you can add IO cards. This would give you more USB 3.1 or SATA easily. As for Windows XP, most drivers don't support it anymore. You can run programs in XP compatibility mode or in a virtual machine. Officially, support has ended and I can't help you much with that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Enthoo Pro vs Define r5"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Well as of today it looks like we have 100% confirmation that the 390X is a 290X overclocked with 8GB GDDR5. Someone leaked XFX's boxing and card renders. These should launch early next week. The Furry will launch slightly later with 4GB HBM and many more cores. I've been hearing 10% faster than a Titan X is the magic number.

I understand your point with the water cooling. It's expensive. It would be nice to see the Furry with a hybrid cooler like the 295x2 featured. EVGA has been doing this with the 980 and soon the 980 Ti and it is fantastic.

If you need anything else, message me or start a new thread. I'll probably run into it... I can't wait to see your build in the featured section :)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Enthoo Pro vs Define r5"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

GPU cooling can be tricky. It's not uncommon for AMD's highest parts (290/290x for example) to run at 95C. Personally I would definitely get a better brand like ASUS Direct CU II or Gigabyte Windforce just to keep the stock temps at bay. Nvidia parts tend to do better but you should still consider getting something like the EVGA ACX SC model. It's cooler, quieter, and factory OC a bit.

Your CPU will likely be fine (maybe a bit warm but safe) with that cooler. Most people do water cooling just because it's quiet and custom loops have a cool look. Top brand closed loop coolers are sealed systems and don't leak a drop 99.99% of the time.

EDIT: Here's the EVGA 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0 that includes a custom cooler and backplate. It has a 114MHz OC for the GPU boost clock.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Enthoo Pro vs Define r5"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Building your own loop might be a lot easier in the full tower case but there are options that work in the R5. You could upgrade the GPU to a closed loop rad (Corsair H100i GTX, NZXT Kraken x61, etc.) and mount it in the top area. If you wanted to easily liquid cool a GPU you can use closed loop kits (Kraken G10 and Kraken x41/x61) now too. Those could be mounted in the front with the removal of the middle drive bays. Smaller 120mm rads could fit on the rear exhaust.

I think as much as you are investing in this system, liquid cooling is worth it. You can get a decent OC on air but less scary temp on liquid. You can always upgrade later though...

It's not worth it to cancel the CPU unless you have an application that would use Intel QuickSync and the Iris Pro iGPU. 99% of things wont. The Broadwell chips launching now are a die shrink (from 22nm to 14nm) and don't get a huge performance improvement. We also don't know how they OC at this point.

About the 5th gen series... The chips out now are actually the enthusiast Haswell-E 6/8 core chips. They use the X99 chipset and DDR4 RAM. The ones coming to mainstream desktops now will replace the 4th gen 4770K and such. These use the same LGA 1150 socket and Z97 chipsets. These chips were delayed and thus their Z97/H97 motherboards are already out. The Skylake 6th gen chips will be out this winter and use Z107/H107 chipsets (and LGA 1151) along with DDR4. Theses are a new architecture on the 5th gen 14nm manufacturing process. These will have major new features and performance improvements.

Also the Fiji XT card (390X, Furry, Whatever...) is definitely worth the wait but you will likely need to fight to get one at launch. Good luck! It will be worth it though...

Glad you added an SSD. You won't be sorry about that. I recommend at least 250GB and the Intel 730 and Samsung 850 EVO are nice options. I have seen the Samsung on sale lately here and there. Keep a look out.

Glad you though of the Windows 10 idea too. I have been using the preview just to follow the build progress and it's fantastic. Let me know if you have anymore questions or need anything else!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Enthoo Pro vs Define r5"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm also gonna over step the purpose of the thread a bit and suggest a few tweaks to that build (assuming you haven't bought anything yet)...

  • You might wait another week and get the new Broadwell i7 5775C as it has just launched. It should be about the same price and have a minor 5% out of the box improvement. It works with most Z97 boards fine.
  • A build that expensive really needs an SSD. Hard drives are the biggest bottleneck in a modern PC.
  • You can grab Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 right now if one is on sale assuming you are going for the Windows 10 free upgrade in late July. Keep in mind that Windows 7 support ends in 2020 without the Windows 10 update.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Enthoo Pro vs Define r5"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I was surprised to find from a quick Google search that a lot of people ask this question. I think the answer is simply this:

  • The Define R5 is a smaller mid tower and is made to be silent
  • The Enthoo Pro is a larger full tower made for water cooling

Honestly the Enthoo has more building room since is has lots of water cooling support and is a larger case. It also has slightly better cable management apparently. In my opinion though, the Define is the better choice because you are not water cooling, it is quieter in most cases, and it flat out looks nicer.

Honestly my case is crap and buying a nicer case is worth it. The noise doesn't bother me 90% or the time but a lot of people want silent PCs. That might be reason enough to get the R5.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Unfortunately, I do not. You might start a new topic in the cases section again. It will catch case modders attention easily.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Crossfire Question r9 280X with 7970"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Luckily AMD simply repositions their cards down the line each year. The same GPU (Tahiti) powers the R9 280 and 7970. The clock speeds and power requirements are simply updated so only expect to run at the stock speed of the slowest card. You can OC them together though to get more performance. I don't know of anything else you need to do to make them perform well. You might need to worry about cooling. Maybe leave a slot in between and find a long flexible bridge.

If you are playing above 1440p, you might need more system RAM. Crossfire setups need an equal amount of VRAM to RAM when running games with lots of textures in order to swap out texture files. This only applies to games with lots of high textures at high resolutions. Otherwise you're fine at 8GB.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Another A78 vs A88+ question"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Usually, you don't need A88X unless you plan to overclock. This is the chipset that gives the K processors their full OC abilities. Looking into reviews on this board, it seems like a great value. ASRock has some less expensive boards that work fantastically, just like this one. I would go for it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Glad we finally could xD

I think we both slightly overextended this thread's purpose tonight... :P

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

My only decent experience with drivers regarding AMD cards has been the community written ones on Ubuntu Linux. I hate AMD drivers with a passion. The installation is more difficult than it needs to be 90% of the time. That being said, they have improved in the last year. Nvidia has their crap together with drivers though. Oddly enough, their Linux support is poor and I avoid their GPUs for Ubuntu.

I will agree that AMD CPUs are a fantastic value and everyone needs to stop comparing them to Intel. They are not in the same ball park and AMD needs to focus on APUs in the budget market and raw performance per dollar in the gaming market. Intel just runs about with their "tick, tock" scheme shrinking dies and lowering power draw. They have performance per watt and don't feel pressure to go beyond the Core branding.

Really, gamers should just save the money and use AMD. Also, their APUs cut it on a budget. Intel is for low power draw and content creation. The brands are something like comparing HDD to SSD at this point.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, and it's really sad that they haven't updated anything but the binning process. I like AMD also and use it in all but my latest desktop. I must say that the RAM timings in my APUs have never been set correctly, even with XMP on G Skill RAM. I always set RAM timings manually.

I really like AMD too because they have value as opposed to Intel. I don't love their GPUs because of driver issues and lack of features. I play a lot of Borderlands and use PhysX for the awesome effects.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

You might need extenders from the location of the fan headers on the board. If you put a fan in the back and two in the front, I would get at least one extender for the top header to connect one of the front fans.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah I understand the value is still not there. Not like the FX line has changed much though :/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm perfectly aware that 1866 is not OC. I mean that they seem to handle up to 2133 GT in tests with 1.6v. He can go for 1866 but that does not mean he's going to get an improvement. Also probably going to need to set timings. Also that article might be old but so is the 8350 :)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

The included front fan is a Corsair red LED fan. The back is just a cheap Corsair fan without LEDs. Honestly, I would buy a 2 pack of Corsair LED fans and switch the back one out and add a fan to the front. Three LED fans should be plenty of lighting without being too loud. Any more and you should look into a LED lighting strip.

And no, that's not a dumb question.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Well looking at the spec sand board layout, the MSI board has 4 fan headers and the Gigabyte only has 3. You will need an adapter if you use the Gigabyte board. The MSI board has headers at the rear, bottom, and 2 front. You will likely want a couple extenders just to be safe.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I've seen few benchmark tests use 1866 on the 8320 and 8350. The memory controllers on Vishera are just not that good and AMD knows it. The better binned 9590 and 8320e seem to handle OC RAM better.

Although AMD’s architecture doesn’t seem particularly bandwidth-starved, Vishera’s dual-channel DDR3 memory controller officially supports 1866 MT/s data rates. Frankly, we’d rather use lower-latency 1600 MT/s modules to maximize value, particularly since our results show that you don't gain any performance

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

It should. You might need 3 Pin fan header to molex connectors and extensions.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I would go with the MSI board just because the quality is much better than the Gigabyte. Look at the reviews :)

As for the RAM, the 1866MHz will have a minor benefit, but AMD has such weak memory controllers that it doesn't really matter.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nice Case to go well with Red LED Fans"

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

This seems to be a well rounded build. That was the case that immediately came to mind with your post. I think you'll be all go to go!

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