I dont know much about that asus, but there's a great B365, the Gaming K4, handles well the high end CPUs, just in case one day you want to buy a better CPU in the future.
You will be fine with a 5700XT, they are cheaper than the 2070 S, and another thing to mention, the best 5700XT like the Red Devil is still cheaper than the cheapest (lower quality) 2070 Super.
Be aware of the cheaper 5700's, like MSI Evoke and some XFX's, they are cheap for a reason....
The Red Dragon seem to be the best of them all.
The Asus B365 for sure. You dont really need to spend extra on a Z390 with that CPU.
Changed the motherboard to a better one as well added a M.2 storage, run the games out that one and let the SSD do all the back ground work.
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For the reasons I been saying before, the X570 now it's cheap enough to be better option than most of the B450 on the 100$ price range. The X570 Gaming K4 is a good option for 140$.
Most motherboards that are all black, would work as long as they have RGB ;)
X570 has PCI-e 4.0 and B450 has PCI3 only, but most of people would be missing out the most important factor, at least to me, the better memory compatibility on the X570 that allow you to have more performance. If I was going to pay 100+$ for a B450, I would personally spend a bit more and get a X570 Phantom K4 that is around 140.
The Gigabyte would be a better choice over the Asus Z390 but none would compare to lest sat the Asrock Z390 Taichi, selling for 179$, absolute top end motherboard which you can't find the same specs at this price.
Even if Intel has a slight lead in gaming performance, just the fact that they will require you to change socket the next gen it's already not worth going there.
AMD games just as good and will be compatible in the next gen CPUs.
You will save way more money with the 5700 XT Pulse with minimal performance difference from the 2070 S. Its a well made card, you cant go wrong with it.
X570 Steel Legend wifi, just under 200$.
Under 100$ you have the B450 Steel Legend, good option for the price.
If you go 9700K route, the Z390 Extreme 4 is extremely :D good value for what it gives you! Plenty of features and top of the line VRMs. It's a solid board running 24/7 overclocked at the moment in one of my rigs.
I wouldn't pair such a high end CPU with a B450, I mean you are spending good deal of money on a CPU and then you want to save some dollars on one of the most important things for stability?
The X570 are more affordable now, the X570 Pro4 is a good example and you have the benefit of have much better memory compatibility and higher clocks vs the B450 MAX.
Regarding the decision, I think it's quite a bit of gab in pricing to be worth the difference, and probably the 2070 Super at the lowest prices have crappy cooling. And it seems AMD solved most of the issues with their drivers, personally I didn't had any issues with my PowerColor 5700XT Red Devil, it's a beast of a card, really cool and super quiet.
Even if he does, the asus B450 is not that bad. Just keep a decent airflow in the case and will be fine.
The Steel legend does pretty well with minimal airflow, at least on mine. Considering you will have a 3600, you won't need to worry about VRM temps at all.
Been using the X570 Steel Legend wifi, really good so far, actually my transfer speeds are faster than my previous wifi adaptor that I had.
Don't get me wrong, the Nvidia cards also have driver issues.
The problem was the previous drivers were a bit pain in the *** for some but to be honest looks like most of them are gone now.
I'm rocking a Red Devil 5700 XT and I can say that is one of the best cards I've bought in a long time.
The problem of buying a 2070 Super, not only is more expensive, the cheaper ones are the budget lines which ultimately will be running hotter and louder.
But not even close as good. The good thing about the X570 Phantom Gaming vs the B450 is that the memory compatibility is way better on the new motherboards, which means you can actually run at higher clocks and get more performance.
How much are you willing to spend?
There are way better options for just a bit more money like this:
Wouldn't say it's 100% white but pretty close.
For sure, most of the boards in the market already have the support for the new cpu. Has been a year now.
Few changes for the better ;)
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Same thought, I paired a 3700X with a X570 Pro4 and rock solid, was not for me but I know there wont be overclocking or anything so it's more than enough.
It seems to be one of the best. Have the little brother and it's also rock solid.
The 5700 premiums have about the performance of the 2060 S and you can find really good deals on them. Personally having a Red Dragon, it has been pretty solid, no crashes or anything weird, bought it because it actually uses the same cooler as the XT model which makes it super quiet and nice and cool.
But for that CPU and GPU you don't really need to overspend, a B450 Tomahawk or Steel Legend would do it.
Doesn't really tell much.
A motherboard won't have much performance difference from each other.
They will do better or worse in terms of thermals, voltage regulation etc... and the biggest differentiating factor is the features each one have.
Pretty much, more than capable of overclocking the 9600K, would say to get a higher tier if you had a 9900K...
What you didn't like about the one that you have?
The Z390 Extreme 4 is a really good one in terms of features and price...
The only problem with that is that the KO is a budget model and won't let you even overclock not to mention that cooler is not very capable..
The 5600 XT is a better card, got myself a Red Devil and super pleased with it, runs cool and quite and performs exceptionally well.
You couldn't go wrong with a X570 Steel Legend, out of all it's one that looks best and very decent amount of features for the price.
X570 Steel Legend Wifi. Great mobo for less than 200$.
If you have big gap from B450 to a X570 then yea, B450 it's a better choice. I got B450 Steel Legend and worked out of the box on the new cpus.
First you have to decide which CPU, AMD new Ryzens are pretty much the best you can get, if you want one of the best 3900X, its a 12 core beast. I wouldn't spend more than 300$ on a motherboard a X570 Taichi is a great match one of the best under 300$.
Go with the X570, not that is important, the pcie4, but for that price difference the X570 is a better choice.
Asus PRIME X570-P would be a better one.
Better CPU, and PSU.
No OS, you can get a license for less.
Take advantage of the sale prices on the 2700X 8 core beast...
Pretty good for what you need.
After seeing Buildzoid video with overview of most X570's, saying the best sub 300$ is the Taichi I decided to take the leap and buy one.
All I can say it's a solid motherboard fully packed, features, ports and solid vrms well capable of handling my 3900X overclocked all the time, no hiccups.
True, just look at Sapphire and PowerColor's, they have 14Gpbs cards, MSI looks like they only have 14Gbps on the Gaming Z which they are too expensive. 340+ $
Computerbase said that 5600 XT is the most energy efficient card from AMD yet! AMD is doing good stuff, I wouldn't go to 1660 when the 5600XT offers 2060 performance and a bit more.
AMD just announced the 5600 XT which is on par with 2060 KO but to be honest you can just spend a bit more and get the 5700, have one the Red Dragon model and pretty happy, overclocks nicely it's compact and performs almost as a XT.
You have a overview of most motherboards on this video and he speaks also what he thinks it's the best under 300$ mobo:
I wouldn't expect much on a X570 motherboard for that money, what I keep saying is to get a premium X470 like the Taichi and have a dream motherboard that beats 98% of all others out there.
Just my opinion, unless you are looking for PCI-e 4.0 for a very specific reason, other than that...
I like it, just personally would save the OS cost and have a better GPU.
Also I would say a X570 for better memory compatibility.
It seems that the new RX 5600 XT's are beating nvidias 2060.
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